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Nikon D90: Recommendations For Lens & Flash?  
User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 530 posts, RR: 4
Posted (3 years 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 6143 times:

Hi all,

Presently I am using the Nikon D90, with the Nikkor 18-200 VR and 10-24 lenses, which I am very happy with. Nevertheless I am hoping to find some advice in here on two questions:

1) What lens would you recommend above the 200mm? Are teleconverters good or rather buy a bigger lens such as a 70-300?
2) Flash: With the 18-200 and the integrated pop-up flash, I am having trouble with the lens shade at the lower end of the photos. For example the DC-10 cabin was accepted despite the shade, but the Il-18 cockpit was rejected for that reason:


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I recently also bought the Nikkor 10-24 lens, which obviously results in a much bigger lens shade signature when shooting below 18mm. Any recommendations how to get rid of the shade? I assume a proper flash sitting much higher than the pop-up flash should do the job? Can you recommend such a flash? I fly in cockpits quite often and it is a shame to have the photos rejected due to this mechanical problem.

Thanks for any recommendations.
Best regards,
Loran


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User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2878 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6140 times:

Quoting Loran (Thread starter):
Any recommendations how to get rid of the shade?

I'm a Canon shooter but the same principle applies. The reason you get a shadow is because the lens gets in the way of the flash and therefore casts a shadow. As you have said, the best way is to use a flash that stands higher and therefore the lens doesn't get in the way. I would also use a flash with a variable head so you can angle it to bounce it off objects rather then a straight blast forward. This will elliminate reflections off surfaces and also helps with wide angle lenses. Most flashes can only over around 14-16mm, so on wide angles, you sometimes find the edges are darker than the centre. By bouncing the flash, or using a diffuser, you can get around this. I would look at the Nikon range of flashes and go for one of the more powerful, viariable head versions. You might not need the most powerful in the range, but i'd stay away from the less powerful ones as it's better to have more power than less. I use a Canon Speedlite 430EX (guide number 43) that has never let me down yet.

Darren



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User currently offlinejwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 19
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6084 times:

For a flash, an SB800 (or whichever is the top model now) would be the thing to aim for. Expensive, but well worth it.

For a lens, a 70-200 f/2.8 with a 2x TC will be both more versatile (take off the TC and you've a very fast lens) and offer far superior image quality to a 70-300 f/5.6 (or whichever consumer grade zoom you're considering. Of course it's heavier  
Don't even think on putting a TC on that 18-200 (not sure if it's even supported).
Buy Sigma, and save big bucks that way for hardly any penalty (you're talking about a marginal difference between Sigma and Nikon here, not worth the massively higher Nikon price).



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User currently offlinecodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6068 times:

If you don't have the funds, you can go for the 70-300 VR or 300/4 (without VR) and for the lamp the recent SB-700 seems quite adequate.

KS/codeshare



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User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 530 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5987 times:

Hi Darren, jwenting and KS,

Thanks very much for your comments, much appreciated.

I have seen the current Nikon flash is the SB800, if I can get hold of an earlier SB600 or so that would probably do the job as well. I assume the best is to point the flash upwards or even rearwards in the cockpit and use a diffuser?

Regarding lens, cost is no issue and I also thought of the 70-300 VR. It adds a third heavy lens to my bag but there is probably no choice. I read your comments as if a x2 converter is not necessarily a good choice?

Thanks again for your advice,
Cheers,
Loran



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User currently offlinePolymerPlane From United States of America, joined May 2006, 991 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5984 times:

Quoting Loran (Reply 4):
the 70-300 VR

I have the 70-300 VR lens, and it is an excellent lens, especially for the price.



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User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5958 times:
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Quoting Loran (Reply 4):
I have seen the current Nikon flash is the SB800, if I can get hold of an earlier SB600

The current Nikon flashes are the SB900, SB700, SB600, and the SB400. The SB800 was discontinued a few years ago, and commands a premium in the used market.

None of them will give you full coverage at 10mm, the widest is the SB900, which covers 12mm on DX.

Full tech specs here; http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Flashes/index.page


User currently offlinecodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5945 times:

SB-600 is quite OK, I still have it but it's dead (already 2 times in service). SB-900 is still a challenge for me it's possibilities are huge.

I have the 70-200 + TC 1.7x combination and it does the job well.

KS/codeshare



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User currently offlineafterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1209 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5903 times:

How about Tamron 70-300 VC? It's less expensive and faster on the wide end than the 70-300 VR. And it has very good reviews.

User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 530 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5652 times:

Dear all,

Thanks very much for your recommendations.

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 6):
The current Nikon flashes are the SB900, SB700, SB600, and the SB400.

Thanks for the correction, I had found some contradicting information as to what are the current products. The Nikon website also clarifies that all of them are current except the SB800.

A side-by-side comparison tells me that it seems to be worth spending the extra $ for the SB700 over the SB600. The SB700 goes down to 14mm in DX format which sounds sufficient to me to avoid the lens hood shade in my photos, and it does also tilt to the side. The SB900 may be a bit too much for me at the current stage.

Quoting PolymerPlane (Reply 5):
I have the 70-300 VR lens, and it is an excellent lens, especially for the price.

I will have a look into this lens, to me this also sounds like a good product.

Thanks again to everyone, appreciate your inputs.
Regards,
Loran



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User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1399 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (2 years 12 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5622 times:
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Quoting Loran (Reply 9):
lens hood shade

Hood? Why would you use the hood indoors? Take it off and the shadow will most likely disappear  
But, I suppose it was a slip of the keys....
The built in flash on my 7D gives a shadow when used with my 17-40 from 17-20mm approx due to the size of the lens.
I got the Metz AF-1 58, it's cheaper than Canon/Nikon lenses and offers the same functionality more or less. It tilts and swivels and can fire wirelessly if the camera has that option (or optional wireless Nikon/Canon transmitter).



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User currently offlineLoran From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 530 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5528 times:

Quoting JohnKrist (Reply 10):
But, I suppose it was a slip of the keys....

It was   I had taken the hood off, not sure why I used this word. The 18-200 lens is still in the way of the pop-up flash unfortunately.
Thanks for your feedback about the Metz Flash, I will have look into these.



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