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Amazing Milky Way Shot Taken In Flight.....  
User currently offlineBMIFlyer From UK - England, joined Feb 2004, 8810 posts, RR: 58
Posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6516 times:

One of the best in flight shots i've ever seen!



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Well done!!


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User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6513 times:

Really good shot. How did he manage to keep the camera so still for a 5 second exposure?

Karl


User currently offlineDehowie From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 1062 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6503 times:

Now that is photography..
Keeping the camera still is easy keeping the aircraft from rolling and keeping the stars stationary was the hard part.
Flown that route a few times now and once in this aircraft and smooth conditions a shot like this needs are few and far between.
Great work!



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User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3247 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6471 times:

Quoting BMIFlyer (Thread starter):
One of the best in flight shots i've ever seen!

Indeed! And I wonder whether there's any other camera, apart from the D3s with its amazing high ISO performance, that could have taken it...

Tony



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User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1401 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6429 times:
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What I am interrested in knowing is how he kept the light of the cabin ut. I have tried blankets, jackets combined with hood and what not, and can still see the Lens specs reflecting in the image...


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User currently offlineYchocky From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6401 times:

Well done Kavin!

The consistent quality and creative presentation of subjects in his work are a real treat!


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4851 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6384 times:
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That is INSANE! Wow...it's hard to get a clear shot of the milky way from the ground... But 5 seconds in a plane??

Amazing stuff.



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User currently offlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5724 posts, RR: 44
Reply 7, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6376 times:
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Quoting Dehowie (Reply 2):
Flown that route a few times now and once in this aircraft

And Deh... has the advantage of larger windows so his praise is well earned... and seconded!



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User currently offlinesovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2643 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6343 times:
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Quoting Dehowie (Reply 2):
Keeping the camera still is easy

How??


User currently offlinelaunchphoto From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 22 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6281 times:

You don't have to have a d3s to take a shot like this; if you can keep a camera still (tripod, clamp, etc) for 15-45 seconds, you can use ISO 3200 or 6400 as well. Very well done for a plane, yes.


Ben Cooper
User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1335 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 months 5 days ago) and read 6256 times:

I'm surprised that there wasn't more blur in this photo. Can someone explain how this was avoided?

User currently offlinevishaljo From India, joined Aug 2006, 474 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6231 times:

^ Well blur in the sky would be a non-issue due to it being as away as the Milky Way, so not much would change in 5 seconds if the a/c was flying smooth, which seems like it was as the winglet area is rock steady.

Sure keeping a heavy apparatus like the D3s + 14-24 steady for 5 seconds would've been a task i'm curious in knowing.

HELL of a shot though!
Nice few photos on his SmugMug Gallery too - http://kavinkowsari.smugmug.com/

Also, i would like to say that after a LONG break come along a photo that makes you dream, you long for it in its absence, then you somehow lose the expectation, which is when BOOM! it comes to Thrill you  cloudnine 

[Edited 2011-07-27 15:49:52]

User currently offlineiamlucky13 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6204 times:

An A330 at high altitude, over the open ocean on a clear night - that's a good recipe for smooth air. Brace the camera against the window firmly to steady it, and cover it with a blanket to kill reflections, and I could see him getting good results from a handful of multiple shots taken.

Even so, there's hints of blur in the stars if you look close, which is not intended to detract at all from the awesomeness of his photo. It simply helps illustrate how difficult this shot is.


User currently offlineJakTrax From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 4936 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6179 times:

I think a little micro-blur is expected and easily forgiven here. Perhaps luck played a huge part (doesn't it always in photography?) but praise where praise is due - great work, however lucky the circumstances might have been.

Karl


User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4851 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6179 times:
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Quoting G-CIVP (Reply 10):
I'm surprised that there wasn't more blur in this photo. Can someone explain how this was avoided?


5 seconds is doable with a proper setup. What's impressive is how much detail came out in the sky at 5 seconds. That means a very high ISO was needed.

Typically when photographing the night sky, the biggest cause of blur is the rotation of the earth.



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User currently offlineJohnR From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6175 times:

That photo was taken over the Tasman Sea which on that particular sector is at about 3:00 am when the cabin service is over and the interior lights are off so it would have been fairly dark inside making it easier to deal with reflections. This incredible photo has inspired me to do some star gazing next time i fly that sector! Very well done.

User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 6150 times:

Didn't know the "Atlantis" had winglets!...My jaw dropped upon seeing this image. While I'm no stranger to hand held time exposures in static aircraft, seated in an airliner seat, trying to wedge yourself tightly in the seat and sure up the camera for a handheld time exposure is most difficult...the shot is an eyegrabber. How high was his ISO?...a wide angle lens does help reduce relative motion blur in such a shot. Author should enter in AV/WK's annual contest.       Great use of the camera...g

User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10259 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 6145 times:
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Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 16):
How high was his ISO?

ISO12800 per his remarks on the photo.

That is really something else. I struggle to get un-blurred shots at 1/4s on an airplane!



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User currently onlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6452 posts, RR: 38
Reply 18, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6114 times:

Quoting SNATH (Reply 3):
And I wonder whether there's any other camera, apart from the D3s with its amazing high ISO performance, that could have taken it...

I also wonder.. Amazing what technology can do these days!



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User currently offlinecpd From Australia, joined Jun 2008, 4880 posts, RR: 37
Reply 19, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6113 times:

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 14):
That means a very high ISO was needed.

yes indeed, and it's a great result. That's real photography. It's probably the most inspiring shot I've seen in ages on here - it's more inspiring for me than a hundred photos from ATC towers or air-to-air shots from Skyvans.

Quoting soon7x7 (Reply 16):
How high was his ISO?..

Pretty high, but to be honest, 12800 is actually really easy with the D3s. 20,000 ISO is also quite good. Kevin Kowsari is a pretty good photographer - and that's the bit that matters, not the camera - although it helps to have a D3s.

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 18):
I also wonder.. Amazing what technology can do these days!

Maybe 1D Mk. IV might manage it, but I don't know what its noise is like at ISO12,800. The Nikon is really good at that ISO. It only starts to get difficult at above ISO20,000.

[Edited 2011-07-27 21:14:22]

User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1335 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6067 times:

Thanks for the replies. I think I misread the ISO as 800 rather than 12800!

User currently offlineMcG1967 From UK - Scotland, joined Apr 2006, 517 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5980 times:

Certainly a great shot. Notice how the 5s exposure captures the red beacon illuminating the outer part of the wing.

I bet we all try stuff like this now on longhaul or overnight flights.


User currently offlineiamlucky13 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5935 times:

Quoting McG1967 (Reply 21):
I bet we all try stuff like this now on longhaul or overnight flights.

No good photo goes un-imitated, and imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

None of the future attempts, however, are likely to get the 45,000 views in 2 days that Mr. Kowsari's has. He put it to pixels first.

It's nigh on impossible to shoot something original these days, what with tens of millions of SLR's out there, and tens of millions of people clicking away like monkeys trying to produce the works of Shakespeare...err...Adams...

...but this is as original as anything I've seen on this site in a while.


However, you don't have to worry about me being one of the multitudes of imitators - I never get a window clean enough to be worth trying.


User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1401 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (3 years 4 months 4 days ago) and read 5918 times:
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Quoting iamlucky13 (Reply 22):
I never get a window clean enough to be worth trying.

I hear you man, and if they are clean, some other bozo have scratched it with the UV-filter while trying to get a picture like the one from Kavin   

[Edited 2011-07-28 14:33:09]


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User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 765 posts, RR: 16
Reply 24, posted (3 years 4 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 5838 times:

That's not the milky way - that's what noise looks like at 12800  

Seriously, a very impressive shot, and confirmation that you should always have your camera with you - you never know when an opportunity will occur.

Cheers,

Colin



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25 JakTrax : I never did; until last week. I always wondered how folks managed to get so lucky with a clean window but I actually had a perfect one on a Ryanair f
26 soon7x7 : I've got two D300's...are they even capable of 12,800iso...and no noise or was the noise in the shape of the milky way?
27 Post contains images glex : If he had a circular lens hood (not the tulip-style) he could have pressed it onto the window to reduce reflections. Combined with a dark cabin and a
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