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Reuters Have Stolen My Picture - Now What?  
User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9628 posts, RR: 68
Posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5417 times:
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Reuters


http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/6103871004/

If you resize my photo to match, and rotate .15 left it is a perfect match. I know this photo is mine, the shadows on the ground, from the flags, were only there for a couple of minutes, before they started tearing the podium down.

Any idea who to contact at Reuters?

Many thanks in advance.

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User currently offlinekiffy From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5382 times:

Hmm seems interestingly similar but the 'Reuters' version seems to have a shadow in the bottom corner and yours does not..
Reuters: http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6085/6152886161_c579b1f011_b.jpg

Yours: http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6188/6103871004_8186e7a16c_o.jpg

I hope this can help,
-Chris


User currently offlineJez From UK - England, joined Feb 2005, 69 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5368 times:

The highlights on the fan blades also look different. To my eye the distance from the pitot under the nose to the top of the barrier also appears different as if the Reuters shot was taken from a slightly lower angle?

[Edited 2011-09-16 10:12:31]

User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9628 posts, RR: 68
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5351 times:
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Great find Chris - I guess lightning does strike twice. Hard to believe...

User currently onlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3941 posts, RR: 18
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5329 times:

I didn't buy it at first, but yes, there seem to be some differences.

Look at the two aerials or bulges below the rear fuselage. The pointed shadow below the left one seems to be substantially farther to the left in the Reuters picture.

The shadow in the corner is just visible in Royal's photo too I think, so the one in the Reuters photo is probably real. Also, in addition to shadow in the corner, the leftmost shadow from the flags seems to be longer in the Reuters picture. So at least the Reuters photo wasn't simply cropped from Royal's photo.

Maybe very subtle, willful Photoshop manipulation to create differences, but I'm inclined to say a different photo from very nearly the same angle.

Peter 



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User currently offlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5317 times:

Quoting clickhappy (Thread starter):
I know this photo is mine,

Were you alone when you took that photo? Right next to the number 1 engine, there appears to be a tree behind the blast fence. If you look close enough, the tree is in slightly different positions in each photo. The photographer must have been standing right next to you Royal.

Also, for added clarity, a link to the reuters photo.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/t...20090501-aq01.html?selectedImage=0

[Edited 2011-09-16 11:04:33]


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User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9628 posts, RR: 68
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5310 times:
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Yeah, whats weird is there was no one else there, and I wasn't standing, I was sitting on the ground.

User currently offlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4782 posts, RR: 26
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5300 times:
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Quoting clickhappy (Reply 6):
Yeah, whats weird is there was no one else there, and I wasn't standing, I was sitting on the ground.

Judging from the slight shadow differences, the Reuters shot must have been taken just a few minutes before or after. The angle is remarkably similar though...crazy stuff!



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User currently offlineJez From UK - England, joined Feb 2005, 69 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5292 times:

Maybe the title of the thread needs to be changed as Reuters have seemingly been wrongly accused?

User currently offlineCargoLex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1264 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5279 times:

Since I have a Reuters account as a photo buyer, I looked this other photographer up (I also figured logging on, which I almost never do, might give me a lead as to where to send you). He was definitely there, and his photos of the event are extensive.

My next instinct was to see if anybody had bought the photo and displayed it on the web at a larger size, and indeed, somebody has:

http://www.boston.com/partners/gread.../ipad/images/27boeing__960x600.jpg

This detail can't be from another image just because I can see what he's got up on the Reuters site.

They were probably taken within minutes or even seconds of each other from almost the exact same spot at almost the exact same angle at the exact same time. At first glance, they're indistinguishable from one another - but on closer inspection as the others noticed, they're not the same. The thing that tipped me off was the height of the blast wall relative to the nose gear door and the "chin" of the aircraft. His lens has more curvature than yours, for sure, the edge of the randome on his is much more warped.


User currently offlinealevik From Canada, joined Mar 2009, 979 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5267 times:
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If you go sportsshooter.com you can see his profile and there is a contact form.

http://www.sportsshooter.com/members.html?id=1680



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User currently onlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3941 posts, RR: 18
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

Quoting clickhappy (Reply 6):

Yeah, whats weird is there was no one else there, and I wasn't standing, I was sitting on the ground.

Maybe he saw you and thought, that looks like a good idea.



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User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9628 posts, RR: 68
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5264 times:
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Haha or maybe I ripped him off  

You guys should be on CSI, thanks for all the effort   


User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5255 times:

WOW ...

this was solved very fast. Would have been a big blow, if they stole the picture.



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User currently offlinespencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5198 times:

Hey Royal, get those eyes checked mate, your screening might come a cropper!         
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User currently offlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5183 times:

Quoting clickhappy (Thread starter):
Reuters Have Stolen My Picture

No watermarks there Head Screener? I know they would have been wrong to steal your photo, but there are measures you can take to protect yourself.



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User currently offlinedvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1743 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5061 times:
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Watermarks are easily defeatable if you pay for a first class membership.


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User currently offlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4903 times:

Quoting clickhappy (Thread starter):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/6103871004/
Quoting dvincent (Reply 16):
Watermarks are easily defeatable if you pay for a first class membership.

The photo referenced above was on flickr.



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User currently offlinegabik001 From Poland, joined Jun 2005, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4855 times:

It does not look like the same photo . Look at left main gear.


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User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2731 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4835 times:

These are clearly NOT the same image as a close look at both shows many differences.

As a side note, Reuters is a well respected professional news organization and while many little publications might stoop to stealing an image, Reuters is not one of those. IMHO, it does a great disservice to Reuters to suggest this.

The title of this thread should be changed immediately, because as it has been clearly demonstrated to be wrong, letting it remain titled as written is nothing but smearing Reuter's name.


User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9628 posts, RR: 68
Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4789 times:
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I'm locking this thread as it has been answered. Thanks to those that offered help.

Cheers


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