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New Sharpening Method In PS CS5  
User currently offlinestevemchey From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 369 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7872 times:

Has anyone played with this new brush based sharpening method in PS CS5 yet? How does it apply to sharpening images for a.net? Could that mean the end of "Copy layer > sharpen > mask/erase parts of the new layer"?  Photoshop CS5 hidden gem: Brush-based sharpening

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User currently onlinedvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1753 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7834 times:
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Hmm, I haven't tried that. I'll have to give it a go. I recently upgraded to CS5 at home and work.

The benefit of the layer mask method is non-destructability - you can always paint in more or less sharpening between the two. This appears to be destructive, just as if you used the paintbrush or clone tool. Again, I'll look into it and give a report.



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User currently offlinedarreno1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 224 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7794 times:

Thanks for posting! I like many others didn't even know that existed. It will surely come in handy for selective sharpening.


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User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 767 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7745 times:

Quoting dvincent (Reply 1):
This appears to be destructive

But could be applied on a duplicate layer (or layers) giving you complete control after application.

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlineHrtsfldhomeboy From Djibouti, joined Oct 2007, 82 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7571 times:

Just gave this technique a quick try.. come to find out it was already on on my CS5 and didnt even know. Yah, it introduced less grain into the image, but.. for A.net standards, it still makes too much grain. Photoshop will have to do better to give us tools so we can please the screeners.

... or a.net can quit nitpicking?  


User currently offlineTACA300C From Costa Rica, joined Oct 2001, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7429 times:

Quoting Hrtsfldhomeboy (Reply 4):
Just gave this technique a quick try.. come to find out it was already on on my CS5 and didnt even know. Yah, it introduced less grain into the image, but.. for A.net standards, it still makes too much grain. Photoshop will have to do better to give us tools so we can please the screeners.   

... or a.net can quit nitpicking?

  


User currently offlinespencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7372 times:

This may well be a new feature but ever since CS2 I have used something similar by sharpening in Lab Colour. Same sort of deal, ie mark out the area with a brush and apply sharpness. I'll definitely give this a go though, seems easier.
Spence



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User currently offlinegranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5577 posts, RR: 63
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7370 times:
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Hello

A lot of different sharpening methods, layers, masking, erasing etc. but I am still using the plain old Unsharp Mask in my old version of CS2 and works perfectly for me. Don't see the need to do anything else.

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User currently offlineteopilot From Italy, joined Jul 2010, 548 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 7353 times:

Quoting granite (Reply 7):
Hello

A lot of different sharpening methods, layers, masking, erasing etc. but I am still using the plain old Unsharp Mask in my old version of CS2 and works perfectly for me. Don't see the need to do anything else.

Yeah... I agree with you! Definitely!  

It's since about a year that I've started using this technique, and I have no complaints about it!  

I've also tried several other techniques suggested by some friends of mine and, just like you, I had never felt the need to have a change, but I wanted to try... and, to be honest, the best results were with my "old" technique. Maybe I'm not good to use any other sharpening workflow, so... I'm still attached to my old one!  


User currently offlinespencer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1635 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7317 times:

Quoting granite (Reply 7):
Don't see the need to do anything else.

Fair comment. And if it's working for you I'd stick with it. I suppose I like to experiment more than others, so I've sharpened in Lab Colour, Smart Sharpen, USM and even in Noise Reduction. I'll use layers and masks when I can though and normally apply too much first then work it back. Right now I'm just using Smart Sharpen but I will give this hidden gem a tickle later.
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User currently offlinegranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5577 posts, RR: 63
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7278 times:
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Hi Spencer

Quoting spencer (Reply 9):
And if it's working for you I'd stick with it.

Yep, everyone will have something different so whatever works for them is good. I try to use the same technique on my colour negative scans too. A lot more work but a lot more satisfaction when you get a good result.

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User currently offlinestevemchey From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 6977 times:

While we are on the subject of sharpening... here is an interesting video from AdobeMax last week. They give a sneak peak of an Image Deblurring tool that may or may not make it into a future version of PS.

PS: The video itself is blurry, so the effect doesn't show perfectly. I hope to see a better video of this in the future.


User currently offlineNPeterman From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6913 times:

I may give this a shot just to see how the end result works. To be honest, I've never even used unsharp mask for my sharpening (probably is vastly superior to what I do anyhow) but its always interesting to see new ways of tackling an old problem.

User currently offlineje89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2362 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6884 times:
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Quoting stevemchey (Reply 11):
While we are on the subject of sharpening... here is an interesting video from AdobeMax last week. They give a sneak peak of an Image Deblurring tool that may or may not make it into a future version of PS.

PS: The video itself is blurry, so the effect doesn't show perfectly. I hope to see a better video of this in the future.

Wow, that is pretty cool. Yes, would like to see a better version of the video, but it seemed like everyone was blown away.


User currently offlineDehowie From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 1066 posts, RR: 33
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6780 times:

One of the very cool things is it's pressurevsensitive to the stylus on my Intuous stylus.
Works beautifully little pressure giving very light sharpening to heavy pressure giving lots.
Nice addition to the tool set.



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