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Smithsonian - Aircraft: The Jet As Art  
User currently offlinekanepjk From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 150 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 4 weeks ago) and read 4845 times:

I didn't see this posted any where on the forum.

This is an article on MSNBC about aircraft photos used in a new display at the Simthsonian. Apparently all shot at LAX. The artist uses a camera that "costs as much as an SUV." I wonder what it is.

http://itineraries.msnbc.msn.com/_ne...onian-exhibit-showcases-jet-as-art

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User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2402 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4830 times:

I've seen his work before, and honestly, it doesn't do much for me.

Quoting kanepjk (Thread starter):
The artist uses a camera that "costs as much as an SUV." I wonder what it is.

I'd guess something like a Hasselblad with a digital back.



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User currently offlineDehowie From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 1070 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4784 times:

I think more like an Ego the size of an SUV...
Think some of those comments are pretty insulting to a lot of people by a guy shooting fish in a barrell...



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User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2825 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4753 times:

Quote:
“It’s like shooting a moving duck,” Milstein told msnbc.com. “The planes are moving so fast, and I have only a hundredth of a second to get my shot. I have to keep the camera moving with the plane and then fire the shot exactly at the top dead center. It took a lot of practice.”

duh...... isn't it called "Panning", a technique that any competent photographer should know how to do? The fact that he's panning a subject passing overhead vs beside you makes not a whit of difference.

Other than the high resolution (nicely financed equipment from the Air and Space Museum tax dollars) the images are nothing more than a competent amateur could produce.


User currently offlineLGW340 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4753 times:

“There are a lot of amateurs out there photographing planes,” said exhibition curator Carolyn Russo, a museum specialist and photographer. “But what Milstein ends up with are really crisp, clean, beautiful color images that transform the planes into art and are unlike any other photographs of aircraft. We’ve compared them to'

Now that gets me really angry!!! Like really mad! Next time one of you are at LAX, can you please give him a massive slap for me? Oh, and break his Hasselblad

Thanks

Chris Goodwin   



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User currently offlineJRadier From Netherlands, joined Sep 2004, 4723 posts, RR: 50
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4736 times:

To be fair, the link is nothing more than a promotion talk, so I wouldn't read as much into it. It is certainly not worth it to get as worked up about as giving him a massive slap... (I won't take it serious, don't worry). You can or you can not agree with it, but you can certainly see his photos as minimalistic art. It might not be your cup of tea, but in a weird sense they do sort of appeal to me for a short time. It is back to basics, nothing but a very detailed view of a side of an aircraft very few people really see.


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User currently offlinephotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2825 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4707 times:

Quoting LGW340 (Reply 4):
can you please give him a massive slap for me?

Ok, here you go.....



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User currently offlinegranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5578 posts, RR: 63
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4693 times:
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Quoting photopilot (Reply 3):
Other than the high resolution (nicely financed equipment from the Air and Space Museum tax dollars) the images are nothing more than a competent amateur could produce

Exactly.

Many, many images on this site can outshine his bland, skyless efforts.

Regards

Gary


User currently offlinejspitfire From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 308 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4611 times:

I say give the guy some credit. Getting so many perfectly symmetrical images would take some time and effort.

Taking the background out really makes you focus on the details of the aircraft. For sure it's more on the art side of photography compared to the database style of this website, and that's absolutely fine.

Personally I think it's a nice collection.


User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

Expensive cameras don't guarantee good aviation photography, nor good art. ( Hasselblad no doubt)...While I love the details we typically see in the shadows...my guess would be he totally blew out the skies which in full frame would render these images as victims of the cutting room floor. Shame on the museum...want art?...look at the gorgeous work of A/netters...g

Quoting jspitfire (Reply 8):


Architecturally speaking airframes are works of art...all the compound curves, reflections from oil canned rivet lines...that's art. While this photographer selected a much simpler approach, you do prove beauty is in the eye of the beholder. No right or wrong here...just think the exhibit is weak if these images depict the show. While the image below would never be accepted by the screeners, I love documenting shapes like N757AF, 757 belly shot below...Remember the #2 engine contours on the L10-11?...fantastic shapes, all formed metal...beautiful work!
Art?...maybe, maybe not...


User currently offlineLGW340 From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

Quoting photopilot (Reply 6):
Ok, here you go.....

That's excellent, thanks



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User currently offlinesoon7x7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4369 times:

Quoting kanepjk (Thread starter):
The artist uses a camera that "costs as much as an SUV."

Schoolbus with a "GoPro" velcrod to roof...


User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3162 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4319 times:
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Those pics have already been published as a book a while ago, and I quite liked it, but no reason for the guy (or anyone else involved in the exhibition) to have an attitude.


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User currently offlinelh526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2381 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4289 times:
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User currently offlineYchocky From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4273 times:

Quoting lh526 (Reply 13):
Shameless Plug ... had a similar Idea in 2004 ...

Good use of the snow to brighten the underside.


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