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Florida Int’ Air Show 2012, Recommendations  
User currently offlinebravosierra From Russia, joined Mar 2009, 26 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 11 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5063 times:

Colleges planning to visit Florida Int’ air show. My goal to see and made nice photos of Blue Angels. What is the minimum recommended lens ? Does my 70-200 x1,4 enough ? Could I rented super telephoto lens in Miami ( for my Nikon D 700 or Canon 7D)? Any tips and suggestions are welcome ! Best regards, Stas

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User currently offlinegeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 3 hours ago) and read 4922 times:

Stas;

I have taken photos of the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds both many times, and most were with a f 2.8 / 200 prime as my longest glass; never tried using the tele-extender. Your 70-200 will be great for a lot of shots, but for a lot more, you'll need more "length"; You kinda "threw" me with the D-700 and Canon 7D; You shoot with Nikon and Canon both ?

I'm not familiar wit Canon model no's any more; so I don't know if the 7D is full-frame or DX sensor; the D 700 being full frame will probably benefit from having the 1.4 between it and the lens for some demo shots; I never rent lenses, so I can't help you with that, but I'm thinking you could find rentals in Miami.........it's a pretty big place !

The last big airshow I went to in Florida was at McDill AFB in Tampa; Security was TIGHT ! ( very nice young Sgt. spent
"forever" checking through every nook and cranny of my big Tamrac Back Pack ) ! ( He was very careful, opened up everything, every zipper, all little cases, etc) . While he was looking, I told him, "you'll miss one".......sure enough, when he finished, he missed the zippered pocket for a lap-top, which has a nylon rain guard around it; .........I pointed it out to him when he finished his "inspection"; if the air show is at a civilian airport, I don't know if security will be as tight as it is at a military base........maybe yes, maybe no.

In any case, photographing The Blue Angles doing their routines is an art all it's own ! ( The equipment you mention will give you a tremendous advantage over what I have used until fairly recently. If you have never seen the "Blues" perform, I guarantee, you'll be impressed ! Lots of Luck !

Charley



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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 4915 times:

Quoting geezer (Reply 1):

7D is 1.6x crop. So according to what you say, it might be an advantage to get the 7D...


Good luck!



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User currently offlinebravosierra From Russia, joined Mar 2009, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4835 times:

Charley, thank you for replay. I use both Nikon (70-200 + 1,4 for pour weather conditions and/or close targets) and Canon 7D ( x1,6 crop +300f2,8 x 1,4 for shooting on long distance). Travelling to Florida with 300f2,8 is a bit complicated. Kind regards

User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3311 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4723 times:

Quoting geezer (Reply 1):
I have taken photos of the Blue Angels and the Thunderbirds both many times, and most were with a f 2.8 / 200 prime as my longest glass; never tried using the tele-extender. Your 70-200 will be great for a lot of shots, but for a lot more, you'll need more "length"; You kinda "threw" me with the D-700 and Canon 7D; You shoot with Nikon and Canon both ?
Quoting bravosierra (Reply 3):
Charley, thank you for replay. I use both Nikon (70-200 + 1,4 for pour weather conditions and/or close targets) and Canon 7D ( x1,6 crop +300f2,8 x 1,4 for shooting on long distance). Travelling to Florida with 300f2,8 is a bit complicated. Kind regards

This may help. These are 100% crop, 280mm (200mm + 1.4x) images from a 1.6x crop-factor body (20D, effective 448mm) at your average air show distance:





-At maximum zoom with the 70-200mm + 1.4x on the Nikon, you'd have to take the 1.6x crop factor out of these images (seeing considerably more sky).

-At 300mm with the Canon, you would actually have to crop these photos even more by about 7%, since you're effectively at 480mm after the 1.6x crop factor. (Versus 448mm seen in the above shots.) You definitely wouldn't need the 1.4x on the 300mm.

So which is the lesser of two evils? Way more sky with a zoom lens, or slightly more crop on a fixed lens?

Personally, I would take the latter. Almost every single shot that day was at the far end of the 70-200mm lens I was using, and it appears the only time I backed it away from the stop was to shoot the American 767 doing a fly-by (which you can anticipate from the show announcer and do a quick lens-swap to something shorter). On the other hand, there's almost not a single shot which would have been trashcanned due to an extra 7% crop, except for maybe the few shots where they were flying a looser formation while passing right in front of the camera. Anything even remotely downrange would have been fine, and your f/2.8 would come real handy if it clouds up.

If it were me, I would pack the 7D, 300mm f/2.8, and your favorite walkaround lens. (If you can manage it; I know you said traveling with the 300 gets complicated.) You won't be disappointed.




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