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User currently offlineSoaring1972 From Germany, joined Jan 2011, 65 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2111 times:

Hi there!

Since a few months now I can immagine strange ratings on some of my photos!
Let me say that of course I like it when someone rates my pictures well and the best is a nice comment of course! But I recognized that sometimes it is a little bit strange, well, let me say unfair!

What happened: The first days a pictures were rated very good with 5 stars but a few days later only with 1 or 2 stars. I can recognize this on a few of my pictures!

I recognized it especialy on one photo which was first rated 5.0 with some hits. A few days later it was "downrated" to 4.4 with only a few hits. So this hits must be 2 stars or below! After a few weeks now the same picture was again "downrated" again with only 3 more hits below 4.0 now.
Now the funniest thing: At the same time I recieved nice-comments for this photo!


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User currently onlinePsych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 2909 posts, RR: 63
Reply 1, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2053 times:
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Hello Jan.

I have noticed this pattern too - I had a couple of photos rated well over 4 with a couple of hundred ratings, but within a short space of time they dropped below the 4.3 score which gets photos into the 'Top rated' section. Given how many ratings they already had, there must have been quite a few very low ratings given to drag the overall average down so significantly.

The reality is the system is open to 'abuse' in that people can club together to rate each other's shots highly, or alternately people may take offence at something you have said in a thread, or some such, and 'punish' you by rating some of your photos with a '1' just to stick the boot in!

I used to pay this more attention, but now I only really look at comments left for my photos and also the photo albums people choose to include your photos in. For me this is a good measure of the popularity of a photo. In fact, I would like to see this as a feature that you can see via Photographer's Corner.

All the best.

Paul

User currently offlineNPeterman From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

Alright, this is going to be embarrassing, but how do you even see what a photo is rated? I must be totally blind to have missed this is all my years on the site. I know you can rate a photo when you comment on it, but I guess I've been dense when it comes to seeing the results.



Nick

User currently offlineSoaring1972 From Germany, joined Jan 2011, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1997 times:

Photos - Photographer´s Corner - Comments and Ratings


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User currently offlineNPeterman From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1991 times:

Wow, I'm dense. Thanks for sharing that. My most popular photo is only a 4.2, c'est la vie.


Nick

User currently onlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4041 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1986 times:
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Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
The reality is the system is open to 'abuse'

I know some people give photos low ratings when the photo has a watermark.  


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User currently onlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 6505 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1969 times:
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Quoting Psych (Reply 1):
but now I only really look at comments left for my photos and also the photo albums people choose to include your photos in. For me this is a good measure of the popularity of a photo. In fact, I would like to see this as a feature that you can see via Photographer's Corner.

   to that whole paragraph.

One of my desires is to be able to leave comments WITHOUT rating a photo. I'm not really interested in rating them, but do want to leave comments every now and then!


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User currently offlinejohnkrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1281 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1968 times:
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Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 5):
I know some people give photos low ratings when the photo has a watermark.

Yep, see when screening comments too "Great pic but worth 1 star for that damn watermark, you really think someone is gonna steal it???" and such...

And sometimes I wonder if it's not political as well. This is my lowest rated photo:


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Photo © Johnny Kristensen



C'mon, I have far crappier pics than that one!


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User currently offlineRonS From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 758 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

Paul, I agree with you 100%. I'm not going to even bother to speculate as to the why, but I do know for sure that many photos of mine are rated down after a few months, and they no longer appear in the Top Rated section. This has been talked about many times. O'well, I'm not going to let it bother me, I can only keep at it, hoping to improve!

Nice shot Johnny! Next election I'll rate it 5 stars (only kidding guys lol)


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User currently offlineSoaring1972 From Germany, joined Jan 2011, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1169 times:

Actual picture:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Germa...d=eb4a8e673f9fd6db8c1b92fed1fc7aa4

Rated yesterday with 15 hits and an average of 4.2! Today 17 hits now and 3.88. So the last two hits must be a one and a two-star!

Well I know it is posible to disallow comments and ratings and this behaviour is leading me to think about to do this!
I know an other photo-database has the same problem at the moment and they disabled this funktion at the moment.


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User currently offlineSoaring1972 From Germany, joined Jan 2011, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1133 times:

And now actualy the next hit with 1 star!!!

Obviously some enviers!


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User currently onlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1281 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1131 times:
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Quoting Soaring1972 (Reply 10):

I don't envy, I admire  
So I gave it the 5 it deserves!
Really cool and unusual shot


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User currently onlineTomskii From Belgium, joined May 2011, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1056 times:

So you think an Airliners.net watermark makes a pic less rated. What if it's in a part of the picture (lets say completely down) where no part of any plane is showed. Would it then be rated lower?

Afterall if somebody wants a copy of the picture they email the photographer so..


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User currently onlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 6505 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1041 times:
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Quoting Tomskii (Reply 12):
So you think an Airliners.net watermark makes a pic less rated. What if it's in a part of the picture (lets say completely down) where no part of any plane is showed. Would it then be rated lower?

Afterall if somebody wants a copy of the picture they email the photographer so..

I don't think anyone in this thread has said that he or she feels that way.

Point is, some people do apparently rate photos lower when they have watermarks.

Doesn't matter to me - I'll continue to watermark my photos.


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User currently onlineTomskii From Belgium, joined May 2011, 262 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 937 times:

Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 13):
Doesn't matter to me - I'll continue to watermark my photos.

Exactly what I thought


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User currently onlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4041 posts, RR: 31
Reply 15, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 933 times:
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Well, this is what happens when you have a rating system that can punish photos. I think a like or favorite button is a better way to go, like at other sites.


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User currently offlineSoaring1972 From Germany, joined Jan 2011, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 921 times:

Ok at other sites you have to be locked in and you name and rating is visible!

And rating a picture less because of a watermark is very stupid in my eyes!!!


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User currently onlineSilver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4041 posts, RR: 31
Reply 17, posted (2 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 912 times:
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Quoting Soaring1972 (Reply 16):
And rating a picture less because of a watermark is very stupid in my eyes!!!

That's easy for us to say because we are photographers. The majority of the viewers, I suspect, are not photographers. Watermarks ruin their viewing experience and that's all they care about. If they aren't photographers, they don't understand or care about the photogs need to protect their work because that doesn't affect them. Plus, I'd guess it's the young kids, 13-15 years old resorting to the childish response of voting down.


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User currently onlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 6505 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (2 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 894 times:
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Quoting Tomskii (Reply 14):
Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 13):
Doesn't matter to me - I'll continue to watermark my photos.

Exactly what I thought

Not sure what you're saying...

Quoting Silver1SWA (Reply 17):
That's easy for us to say because we are photographers. The majority of the viewers, I suspect, are not photographers. Watermarks ruin their viewing experience and that's all they care about. If they aren't photographers, they don't understand or care about the photogs need to protect their work because that doesn't affect them.

Very true. It's unfortunate that so many people are willing to steal photos, thereby "ruining" the experience for others (I put "ruining" in quotes, because I see watermarked photos all the time, and it doesn't bother me).


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