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User currently offlineswadeep From Thailand, joined Dec 2005, 11 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4180 times:

Hey there, I am thinking of upgrading my camera and would really appreciate your help. Anyway here's my current equipment.

Canon 550D with 18-55mm lens
Normal canon lens 55-250mm
Canon 100-400 L IS

I also use battery grip.

Last 2 weeks i just purchased 24mm F1.4 L II USM lens and now I was planning to upgrade body to 5dmk2 . Then i was told by a friend to wait because 5dmk3 is going to launch. Now the launch is this friday but after seeing the price and specs i am not sure anymore. I live in bangkok and getting 5dmk3 would be twice more expensive than getting mk2. I just purchased 24mm f1/4 also which was quite expensive so dont want to spend a lot more in not needed to really. anyway here are my questions.

1. Should i just get 5dmk2 then? Is it worth paying double for mk3?

2. The battery grip that i use for my 550d, will it be compatible with mk2/3 also?

Would really appreciate your assistance.

Thanks
Swadeep


Swadeep Chansrichavala (BKK | VTBS)
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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 10350 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

Quoting swadeep (Thread starter):

Last 2 weeks i just purchased 24mm F1.4 L II USM lens and now I was planning to upgrade body to 5dmk2 . Then i was told by a friend to wait because 5dmk3 is going to launch. Now the launch is this friday but after seeing the price and specs i am not sure anymore. I live in bangkok and getting 5dmk3 would be twice more expensive than getting mk2. I just purchased 24mm f1/4 also which was quite expensive so dont want to spend a lot more in not needed to really. anyway here are my questions.

Are you sure he didn't mean: "Wait till the Mk3 comes out, because the Mk2 will go down in price"?

I don't know if that's what will happen, but it would make sense....



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User currently offlineswadeep From Thailand, joined Dec 2005, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4173 times:

what he meant was wait for mk3 incase i wanted to buy mk3 (at that time i was about to buy mk2....i had no idea about mk3) but now that i know the estimated price i am having second thoughts. i wont mind buying mk2 if it's not worth the money jumping to mk3

thanks

swadeep



Swadeep Chansrichavala (BKK | VTBS)
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4151 times:

Quoting swadeep (Reply 2):
what he meant was wait for mk3 incase i wanted to buy mk3

Well sure.. Unless you think that you really don't want the mk3. But the price of the mk2 could drop, depending on what stocks are like and how long they keep the line open for. You need to think about whether it'd be worth it going for the mk3. By looking at your lenses, you'll need to replace the 18-55 unless you don't use it at all as that won't work on any 5D. The 5DII is a great camera - many here have it and they produce fantastic shots with it.

And no - the battery grip of the 550D is not going to fit a 5D. The 5D is huge in comparison to the 550D and it requires different batteries.



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User currently offlineswadeep From Thailand, joined Dec 2005, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4145 times:

hi. thanks for your input. i will still keep 550d so i will use 18-55 lens still for general shooting. i guess i will see if the price will drop or not..looks like maybe have to end up getting mk2 then unless mk3 offers significant improvements to justify the price...

thanks
swadeep



Swadeep Chansrichavala (BKK | VTBS)
User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6457 posts, RR: 38
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 23 hours ago) and read 4110 times:

Quoting swadeep (Reply 4):
so i will use 18-55 lens still for general shooting

IMO your money would be better spent on good quality glass than a 5DII unless you're so keen on getting a full frame body. You could buy a 7D and also a good lens to replace the 18-55 such as possibly the 17-40, 24-70, 24-105 or the 17-55 for a crop body which would come to around as much as what the 5DII would cost.



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User currently offlineshufflemoomin From Denmark, joined Jun 2010, 480 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 23 hours ago) and read 4099 times:

I will add a second vote for the 7D. It's a fantastic camera and a valid upgrade from the 550D. If you go full frame, you're not going to fill the frame with your lenses the way you're used to. Your lenses will behave the same on the 7D and you'll get a better overall camera. Plus you'll save about 50% of the cost of a 5DmII.

User currently offlinenotnam From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 57 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 4085 times:

Just to balance the discussion a little, I followed as similar path to the OP and went from a 450D to a 5D2 and could not be happier. I did consider the 7D but was keen on the low light capability of the 5D.

I have come to really appreciate the full frame sensor and the crops you can achieve more than make up for the loss of focal length.

Good luck with your decision.


User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 769 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 19 hours ago) and read 4075 times:

I guess it depends what you think you need - having paid for the 24mm 1.4, I assume the full frame and low light performance are of interest, in which case the 7D is not the best answer (effectively turning your 24mm into a an approximately 35mm lens).

Whether its worth waiting for the 5D3 is anyones guess until the specs and price are officially announced. Frankly, even a 5d mk 1 will give you full frame and better image quality than your 550 - and you may be able to find one real cheap. The Mk II increased the pixel count and added video, and that's about it - the AF and metering were pretty much unchanged. Unless you really need video and/or 22mp files, then the old mk.1 will do the job.

What I think most people are hoping for with the Mk.3 is primarily a updated AF (similar to the 7D or 1DX) - no one seems to be expecting anything too radical, though certainly improved low light performance is pretty much a given, and maybe some clever support for wireless flash. But, Canon has pulled some surprises out of the hat before!

So it depends what you need. One thing for sure, the release of the Mk.3 is not going to cause the Mk.2 to get more expensive ... but I wouldn't expect it to get a lot cheaper either - if as expected, the Mk3 is going to be $1000 more expensive I don't think dealers are going to need to do much discounting to shift Mk.2 stock - it will still be a very desirable camera, esp. for those into video.

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlineshufflemoomin From Denmark, joined Jun 2010, 480 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 17 hours ago) and read 4048 times:

Although I've read many opinions that the 5D performs better in low light than the 7D, I can say that I haven't seen it. A good friend and I are both concert photographers and he uses the 5DmII and I use the 7D and both perform exceptionally. Whether the 5D is worth the extra 50% in cost basically boils down to whether you want full frame or not. Even though the 7D is a crop sensor, it still shoots 2X as many frames per second and AF performance is greatly superior. Both good things to consider if you're going to be doing aviation photography. The 7D is superior for video too if that's of any interest to you. The 5DmIII is almost certainly going to top the 7D in those areas, but at a rumoured price of $3500, you'd have to have deep pockets to consider it.

User currently offlineswadeep From Thailand, joined Dec 2005, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 15 hours ago) and read 4039 times:

Thanks very much guys for your opinions. Really appreciate it. Many good points. While I am going to be using it for aviation photography, i will also use it for low light situations and taking videos too...i guess i really have to decide now which one to get. I may lean towards 5d more as I also want to get full frame censor but let's see. the question is now mk2 or mk3. I guess ill wait few more days till i know the exact specs and price.

thanks again so much everyone. i really appreciate your inputs  

cheers
swadeep



Swadeep Chansrichavala (BKK | VTBS)
User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 769 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3965 times:

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 9):
Although I've read many opinions that the 5D performs better in low light than the 7D, I can say that I haven't seen it. A good friend and I are both concert photographers and he uses the 5DmII and I use the 7D and both perform exceptionally.

I'd basically agree with this - the 7D does a very good job at high ISO, as does the 5D. But in my opinion, the Achilles heel of the 7D is it's image quality at low ISO (100-200) - here the 7D shows noise where you simply would not get any with the 5D.

I suspect the bottom line is that the 5D sensor is inherently cleaner, but at higher ISOs Canon incorporates additional noise reduction technology which effectively levels the playing field.

Cheers,

Colin



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