martin54 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2007, 35 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4904 times:
I use a fairly inexpensive Samsung 24" LCD monitor but I was wondering what other people here use; especially the screeners. If I remember correctly, a couple of years ago it was said that every screener would be given the same type of monitor?
Dubi From Slovenia, joined Mar 2006, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4867 times:
Good question. I use notebook and 42 inch TV-LCD. Editing for viewing on small screen or big screen requires different methods. Once edited, pictures looks over-sharpened on smaller screens, while on big screen it is OK. Also some of my pics were rejected because being soft. After sharpening they look over sharpened to me, but not for screener. Why, I don't know and I didn't ask. It is that sharpness must be edited very carefully - just right. My method is unsharp mask, layer mask, and brush in photoshop. With this I just delete sharpness on inclined lines where jaggies are most visible. And I never had this trouble on my old crt monitor.
Stick with smaller sensors and smaller screens .
ckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 713 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4773 times:
I've got a dual monitor set-up with an expensive Eizo and a cheapo Dell - obviously I use the Eizo for editing, however by using a calibration tool (I use a Spyder 3) it is surprising how close the Dell can get to the Eizo.
So my first recommendation is to get a calibration device - cheaper than a quality monitor, and a) it may result in a better display on your Samsung and b) there's not much point in getting a better monitor unless you take the time to calibrate it.
I've had a look at pics on my LED TV (OK, its just an LG), and while they look fine, I'm not sure I'd trust it (or any TV) for editing as there is a hell of a lot of processing of the image going on with a TV - contrast and gamma tend to be boosted, and while I can adjust the color, I have no way of calibrating it (don't know if any TVs allow this). I suspect images are also artificially sharpened as pics which look right on my Eizo look a bit 'edgy' on the TV.
Although monitors and TV's share the same technology, they are intended for different purposes and tuned accordingly - though maybe with higher end TVs it is possible to use them in a neutral state.
JRowson From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 348 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4674 times:
I have a 20" Dell IPS LCD from 2006 which is nice apart from the horrible anti-glare coating they use on it, which has a fine coloured crystalised look to it. I've been looking at new screens and might replace it in 6 months or so. My current favourite candidate is a 27" model from Hazro which apparently uses the same sort of IPS panel as Apple do in their cinema screens but for a fraction of the price. The only thing putting me off is that they do seem to be having a fair few quality control issues. I'm looking for alternative suggestions if anyone has anything amazing up their sleeves.
James Rowson. Canonite and lover of all things L. JAR Photography.
geezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4504 times:
Until now, I have used the display on my old 20 in iMac, (which I'm typing this on right now); the thing has always had a very sharp image, but it's getting "long of tooth", so a couple of weeks ago I bought a new 27 inch iMac; Talk about a fabulous image........unfortunately, due to the press of having to make a 43 mile round trip to the hospital and back, every day for over a month now, the new iMac is still sitting patiently in it's un-opened box, on the floor beside my computer desk.
I have never used a calibration device on the iMac, but it's really invaluable if you are seriously "into" photo editing. I'm "into" so many different things that I sometimes don't get around to taking my cameras out of the house for days on end. (And living where I do, I don't do much aviation photography as a rule.)
As for the computer to edit your photographs with.............. I've been a Mac fan for over 10 yrs now, and I personally like the iMac better than anything else; the new one I just bought has a quad core processor, has 4 GB of RAM at the moment, but I have two 4 GB modules I just bought (from MacConnection), which, like the iMac, are still sitting un-opened in a box; (it's only a 2 min task to insert the two 4 GB ones, then I'll have 12 GB of memory; if I ever need more, I can always add more modules, up to a total of 16 GB; (I doubt that I will have the need to though)
As a side note..........I bought my "better half" a new 17 Dell lap top (with windows 7) about 6 months ago; the display on it is "decent", and she likes the thing for what she uses / used the thing for, but then I bought her a new Kindle Fire, and the kindle is "with her", 24 / 7; she sleeps with the thing, does her email with it, does her FB with it; meanwhile, the Dell is sitting on a table, gathering dust. (For my part, if I had to use windows 7 more than 5 minutes, I'd quit "computing" !)
Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
ckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 713 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4464 times:
Quoting kann123air (Reply 7):
How do I get a calibration device? I've suffered the same problems for a while....when it is rejected for over-sharpening, it looks perfect to me, and when it is perfect it looks soft to me.
You may be misunderstanding the purpose of calibration - it is purely for adjusting the color & contrast of the display. It won't help with how sharp something appears - though having said that, if your contrast is way off, an image may appear a little sharper or softer than it really is.
Just Google "monitor calibration" and you will find a range of devices, but sharpness is more likely an inherent quality of the device you are using.
Tomskii From Belgium, joined May 2011, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4428 times:
Samsung 23" here: 2333HD It was considered when I bought it as one of the better 300 EUR range screens. Now that I see my granddads new ASUS IPS panel I have to say that mine was fairly cheap and good. (in comparison to the Asus)
Only differences I see is that the white is whiter and that the colours are a bit more 'real'.