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User currently offlineplanespot From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9206 times:

This guy has stolen a quite a few photos from A.net:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?s...25839122.2042257.1560466621&type=3

In the case of my KLM 747 sunset Maho Beach shot, he cropped out the A.net banner, then added his own name!!

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb....2042257.1560466621&type=1&theater
(I've reported it, so hopefully this link is inactive soon)


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Photo © Cary Liao - AeroPX



If you see your own photo there, I suggest reporting it to Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/help/contact/?id=208282075858952

[Edited 2012-07-19 16:48:06]


Cary Liao - AeroPX
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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9056 times:

Here is the problem I have with this whole thing dealing with FB:

A.net photos have the tagline at the bottom, with the photographer's name, along with most photos now having watermarks.

The only time this becomes a legal copyright issue is if the user makes an effort to mask the watermark/tagline and/or uploading the photo, WHILE claiming (despite both) that the photo is their own.

I know a girl who admittedly uses an A.net photo as her cover photo but she makes it known that she got it from A.net and that it's not hers. People 'share' and 'post' photos from other sources all the time but the only time it becomes a legal copyright issue is if someone claims it's their own.



One of the FB admins for PHX Spotters. "Zach the Expat!"
User currently offlineplanespot From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9051 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
People 'share' and 'post' photos from other sources all the time but the only time it becomes a legal copyright issue is if someone claims it's their own.

That's not quite true - if it dilutes the original photo's value, it can be a copyright issue. It also depends on the size -- a thumbnail, linking back to the original and credited might be considered fair use, but using the whole image could be a problem, even if the watermark is still there.

Either way, my photo had my credit cut off, and he put his own name in, instead. That's pretty much the lowest thing someone could do, other than printing out copies and selling them. Fortunately, FB removed the photo.



Cary Liao - AeroPX
User currently onlinegonzalu From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 195 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9048 times:

I must agree with Cary. I like to control the exposure to my photos and certainly does not give anyone the right to present the photos as their own. None of the photos seem to be credited in any way, the tagline is not credit, it is part of the photo . Our copyright here on A.net clearly states MUST NOT BE USED IN ANY WAY without prior permission.

The only way he can show off the photos is by LINKING to them and giving attribution, and even then, it is iffy. Promoting is different than showing it as your own. The fact that it was DOWNLOADED and then RE-UPLOADED to another site, makes it bad!



Manny Gonzalez, Thrust Images.
User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9023 times:

Quoting planespot (Reply 2):
Either way, my photo had my credit cut off, and he put his own name in, instead. That's pretty much the lowest thing someone could do, other than printing out copies and selling them. Fortunately, FB removed the photo.

Yeah that right there is a blatant copyright violation.

Quoting gonzalu (Reply 3):
The only way he can show off the photos is by LINKING to them and giving attribution, and even then, it is iffy. Promoting is different than showing it as your own. The fact that it was DOWNLOADED and then RE-UPLOADED to another site, makes it bad!

Are you talking about the "like" link on the top of the photo page?



One of the FB admins for PHX Spotters. "Zach the Expat!"
User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2597 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 8873 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 1):
The only time this becomes a legal copyright issue is if the user makes an effort to mask the watermark/tagline and/or uploading the photo, WHILE claiming (despite both) that the photo is their own.

That's not quite correct. If it has been reproduced, e.g. by downloading and re-uploading onto another site, then there is a prima facie case of copyright violation.

Quoting gonzalu (Reply 3):
Our copyright here on A.net clearly states MUST NOT BE USED IN ANY WAY without prior permission.

The terms and conditions state:

Quote:
You have limited rights to personally view the images with your web browser and to use them as your personal computer wallpaper (or background image) on your own computer.

So according to airliners.net's usage requirements, downloading them as a computer wallpaper is not against the rules, but aside from that, yes, you're quite right, uploading them onto a site such as Facebook, whether or not the copyright line has been removed, is a breach of copyright.

The only "safe" way is to post a link to the image (in the same way that Airliners.net's own Facebook page does). That way, as the image is not reproduced, it is not considered a violation.



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12393 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 days ago) and read 8854 times:
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Quoting gonzalu (Reply 3):
The only way he can show off the photos is by LINKING to them and giving attribution, and even then, it is iffy.

In what way is linking to a.net photos in the manner approved and encouraged by the site "iffy"?   



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User currently offlinesrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7975 times:

Please keep the discussion on-topic, as this thread is not regarding this site's own use of the photos in its' database on it's Facebook page. This is regarding the unauthorized use of A.net photos by those not associated with the A.net Facebook page.

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 7830 times:

Sad.....What stops the posters from posting the entire image with the Website & photographer......


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