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User currently offlinen314as From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8023 times:

We all know that slides (especially Kodachrome) were the main staples of our hobby for over 60 years. Of course the digital technology is upon us but it does not mean slides are dead. In fact, most of the original photography pre-2002 was done on slide film and we still use the process today. Slides are original film and cannot be lost in a computer crash. It also teaches proper photography technique in framing, exposing, and using camera speeds.

Slide collections are still going strong especially for those who collect roster shots of planes (fleets). We encourage you who have done slides and have uploaded scans of slides on airliners.net to talk about your experiences with slides, how you still have them, how and when you started shooting them, what you learned from them, and what you think of the future in this and basically reminisce about the hobby when it was all done with film. Many new digital photographers should look at our stories behind slide shooting and collecting and how we did it. A lot of it can be transformed into digital photography like slow speeds for props etc.

We also would like all aviation photographers especially those with slide collections and plenty of spares to bring them to the large conventions around the world such as Phoenix, Vancouver, Miami, Munich, Paris, and Frankfurt! These are the times to help keep the memory of slide shooting for many years to come.

If you have any questions on the slide hobby or events to show your spares, please contact me!

Please help keep the slide hobby alive! It was the mainstay of aviation photography and should be preserved!!!!!

[Edited 2012-08-10 12:05:57]

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User currently onlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7923 times:
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Quoting n314as (Thread starter):
Slides are original film and cannot be lost in a computer crash.


That is true, but apart from multiple shots of static aircraft or unless you made dupes and stored them somewhere else your slide is the only copy in existence.. subject to fire, fire flood tempest or just plain mould...where as my digital image is stored in at least two formats where I do my image processing and at least one other copy stored off site.

Having said that, N314AS, I am not criticizing your passion(you may have seen my threads in NonAv re '70's era analogue audio) actually still own a half decent film camera.. should load it up and shoot some nice slides at YSSY.

My biggest regret is many of the slides I shot over several decades were poorly exposed, was badly advised on how to get good shutter speeds etc for motor racing,.. poorly processed, same reason,..badly stored, just plain stupid.

Please accept my encouragement to keep slides alive!!



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User currently offlineJalap From Belgium, joined Oct 2007, 355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 7761 times:

Indeed! Every slide is a unique piece, when you watch the slide you know it was there when the plane passed. Collecting slides is a tempting hobby. I was into that for some 12 years. I stopped somewhere about 2002. It was a great hobby, being a but like a hunter/collector/trader.
By the time I stopped Concorde was gone, Sabena was gone and the best spotting places in Brussels were gone. I lost my appetite. And digital shooting surely isn't going to bring back my appetite, I can't imagine it being anywhere near as thrilling as shooting slides and building up a "hard" collection.

One thing, my slides are getting damaged by time now. I'm planning on selling the whole lot but am still not sure on how to handle that. We're talking more than 10.000 slides here, some very very rare, high quality and valuable, thousands not so rare and valuable... . Any hints on a good (and efficient) approach to doing that are welcome  


User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3884 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 7752 times:

Quoting n314as (Thread starter):
Slides are original film and cannot be lost in a computer crash.

Digital files don't scratch.



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User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7744 times:
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Quoting n314as (Thread starter):
Slides are original film and cannot be lost in a computer crash.

If you ever gotten a roll of film back with scratches, tram lines, or some other flaws it feels the same.


User currently offlineGEEZER From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7694 times:

My first experience with shooting reversal film (as it was called "back in the day") wasn't even with a 35 mm camera; when I was in the Navy from 1951 til 1955, I had a dinky little range finder camera that used "828" film; it came back mounted in regular cardboard mounts; it did a pretty good job at the time. After I got out of the Navy I got a 35mm SLR camera, a "Topcon"; it did a great job with Kodachrome; ( which was ASA 10 back then )

I hated to wait for Kodachrome to be processed, so I started shooting Anscochrome; you bought a "kit", which made up enough solution to process ( I think ), about 5 or 6 thirty six exposure rolls. I processed the Anscochrome one cassette at a time, in a small "daylight" tank made by Leitz. At that point in time, color film was only about half of the market; a lot of people still shot black & white almost all of the time. ( everyone had a dark room "back then" ) A great (and very popular) fine grain B&W film was Kodak's Panatomc X ; It was a negative film, and almost everyone developed it as a negative; however, you could buy Kodak's "direct positive" chemical kit, and develop it as a "positive", and the resulting slides were absolutely tack sharp !

I still have a few laying about somewhere. It was almost the same process as processing Anscochrome, only fewer steps and you didn't have to "reexpose" it with a photo flood, and it produced fabulous B&W slides!

During most of the 90's I was shooting with a grand old Canon F-1; ( the F-1 body and the 200mm / f 2.8 lens that I bought used from a local camera store were "loaned" by Canon USA to professional photographers who covered the winter Olympics that were held in Lake Placid, N.Y., then returned to Canon, were "refurbished" and sold at a great price by "selected" camera stores; the whole time I used the F-1 I was still shooting Kodak products. After taking an "all expenses paid" trip to Oahu, and spending three months shooting with my old Canon F-1, ( and part of the time with my son's new Nikon F-5, ( and all Fuji Velvia ), I "saw the light" and bought myself a Nikon F-5 when I returned home. I still have the F-5, and it still "works" as well as it ever did, (and I know that there are still many people shooting Fujichrome films to this day, but I doubt if I'll ever even buy another roll of film. )

I will say this though; I learned a lot about exposure, etc, while I was still shooting 35mm "slide film", and I STILL use much of what I learned while I'm shooting digital; another BIG pus I have...........for years and years, you focused camera lenses with the focusing "ring"......(with your fingers !) I still have a manual focus 105mm Micro Nikkor, a superlative MF 300mm / f4 tele, plus about two or three more old Nikkor MF lenses; and thanks to Nikon's wise decision NOT to change their lens mounts, I still use all of these with my D 300s; auto focus is fantastic for many things ! And manual focus is still even better for certain other things !

Storage of color slides...............(I can't believe so many people have problems with mold ! ) I have all slides stored in ordinary, inexpensive metal slide boxes, which are in vacuum sealed "space bags" (with desiccant in each bag) cold temperature doesn't hurt slides; hot temperature KILLS them ! ( and moisture kills them even faster )

BTW..........if you transport ANYTHING in the wintertime, and it gets real cold, ( slides, cameras, lenses, electronics, ANYTHING ) don't bring it into a warm house, motel, whatever; anything that's cold, (especially if it's metal, glass or electronics) will cause the moisture that's in the warm air to condense on the cold surfaces; this can and WILL kill lots of things; (and it's easy to avoid) I always carry zip-lock storage bags.........stick the item into the bag while it's still cold, press out as much air as possible, and zip it up; ( I sometimes even stick some duct tape over the zip end ) then take it inside, stick it under a table in a corner, and leave the thing sit for 3, 4 hours, (or as long as it takes for the contents to warm up to room temperature; THEN take it out; ( it's NOT the cold air outside that does the dirty work, it's the warm, moisture laden air inside, that always condenses when it comes in contact with cold surfaces. ( basic 7th grade physics )

That's a few of my experiences with slides.

Charley



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User currently offlineclickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7650 times:
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Quoting GEEZER (Reply 5):
if you transport ANYTHING in the wintertime

Doesn't have to be wintertime, it happens in Florida, Hawaii, and anywhere else it is humid. If you keep your gear in your a/c cooled hotel room, throw it in the trunk while driving to the airport, this will bring up to temp and prevent your lenses getting fogged up.


User currently onlinestealthz From Australia, joined Feb 2005, 5609 posts, RR: 45
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7581 times:
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Quoting stealthz (Reply 1):
actually still own a half decent film camera.. should load it up and shoot some nice slides at YSSY.

Picked the damn thing up to load some film and the battery door fell off in pieces, that was a show stopper!!

Found an US camera repairer on eBay that has replacements for $15.00 so might dip into the PayPal account and fix the thing.
The AL-1 was hardly the best known or highly regarded Canon SLR but it feels nice in the hand!!



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User currently offlineGEEZER From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 7297 times:

Quoting stealthz (Reply 7):
The AL-1 was hardly the best known or highly regarded Canon SLR but it feels nice in the hand!!



I'm not familiar with the AL-1, so I can't comment; But did you ever look at the "old" Canon F-1 ? I don't remember the year I bought it, but it was shortly after the last winter Olympics were held in Lake Placid, N.Y. the entire body is made out of brass!
It has a removable pentaprism, has half a dozen or so different focusing screens, and 3 or 4 different "gadgets" that replace the pentaprism. FD lenses back then all had manual aperture rings and manual focusing rings. Exposure was achieved strictly by "match-needle" or hand held exposure meter. For a few years there, it was a "top of the line" pro body.

Now..........it would probably make a great paper weight !

Charley



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