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User currently offlineBogac From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 52 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6964 times:

I've been to a spotting trip recently and now have 200+ RAWs to process. Would you please inform me on your own white room workflow? I also would appreciate if you can direct me a good tutorails regarding sharpening and overall editing. I have some Photoshop knowledge but I feel I have to work on my skills in order to be accepted here.  

Thanks in advance.

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User currently offlineKaphias From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 300 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 6919 times:

http://www.airliners.net/faq/editing_guide.php?


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User currently offlineBogac From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6837 times:

Thanks.

Any recommendations on storage?


User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6837 times:

Quoting Bogac (Reply 2):
Any recommendations on storage?

An double external harddisk that automatically copies everything you put onto it.



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User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2889 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6837 times:

Quoting Bogac (Reply 2):
Any recommendations on storage?
Quoting ptrjong (Reply 3):
double external harddisk

Same here. I have 2x 1Tb external hard drives that are copies of each other for safe storage in case one fails.

Darren



Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
User currently offlineBogac From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6837 times:

Thanks a lot for the feedback. Actually I was asking about your favorite organization system. I am just about to start, so I want to establish a system right from the begining.

User currently offlinehobbsieoz From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6837 times:

Mine is simply

D:Spotting Photos/[APT]_[DATE]

e.g.

D:/Spotting Photos/LHR_10092012
or if its a trip over a few days
D:/Spotting Photos/AMS_June_12/Tues_19
D:/Spotting Photos/AMS_June_12/Wed_20
D:/Spotting Photos/AMS_June_12/Thurs_21

Is that what you mean?



www.spot2log.com
User currently offlineBogac From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6837 times:

Yes, exactly. So you store your original at the same folder with the edited ones? Do you add registrations etc to your file names?

User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9805 posts, RR: 26
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6827 times:
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I use Canon's default filenames and folders, basically. So my filenames are all "IMG_XXXX" and my folders are all by date, named "YYYY_MM_DD".

My file structure within the Canon default folders goes something like this (not all these folders appear on every date):

YYYY_MM_DD
----RAW
--------Photoshop
--------Smugmug
----HDR
--------Photoshop
--------Smugmug

So the RAW files are in "YYYY_MM_DD". The RAW-edited full-size JPEGS are in "RAW" and "HDR". JPEG-edited full-size JPEGS are in "Smugmug" (since that's where those typically go). And JPEG-edited and resized JPEGS are in "Photoshop".

There are exceptions, and there are additional folders sometimes too (sometimes I have a "Watermarked" folder within the "Photoshop" folder, for example).

It's not a perfect system, but I'm WAY too lazy to rename every file based on airline/reg/location or whatever. And even finding a photo isn't that hard; uploading to Smugmug is actually the easiest way I keep track of photos, since I have them sorted on there by airplane type and airline at a minimum.

As far as where I store everything, it's a constant battle these days to clear space on my computer, so I've been transferring all my RAW files to an external HD. I should probably get a 2nd one as well.



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User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3906 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6776 times:

I agree with Hobbsieoz and Vik. My folders are simply named like 20120909-Prague and I don't care what the files within are called. (Edited photos come in a separate folder with filenames based on the registration.)

It would occassionaly be nice to be able to search all my photos on aircraft type, airline/user or registration, but it's way too much work to add that info for all photos in my opinion. If you want to be able to see what registrations you have photos of, for example, you obviously need to use a different system.

Peter 



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User currently offlinesovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2578 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6758 times:
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I use a similar system as Vik. All my photos are in one giant folder called "photos" which now approaches a size of 0.5TB  

Photos
- YYYY_MM_DD (for example 2012-08-04 KORD) - RAW and jpeg both go into this folder
-upload
- YYYY_MM_DD
-upload
etc...

This giant folder is backed up to another external hard drive. Now, to sort through these tens of thousands of photos I just use Picasa. It is very fast, loads up the thumbnails fast and you can scroll through hundreds and thousands of photos very fast depending on how fast you scroll your mouse wheel. Then, you can mark which photos you want to edit with a star, and then open in Photoshop directly from Picasa. It is very efficient and easy.


User currently offlineBogac From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6726 times:

Thanks a lot for all the feedback guys.

User currently offlineRexOdatis From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 1 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6680 times:

Spotting: identification of surface forms (substrings of the original input) that may be entity mentions.
Filtering: adjusting the annotations to task-specific requirements according to user-provided configuration.



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User currently offlinehobbsieoz From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 6615 times:

What i do when i get back from a trip is put all of the photos in a folder called Pre-Process. All of the RAW files go in there for me to edit.
Once im happy with them i'll save them as JPEG's and move the associated JPG, CR2 & XMP files into folders with the correct date and location labelled.

Then i'll go through and rename each photo and its relevant files to the registration. I try to keep a maximum of three photos for each registration e.g. G-EZMS.jpg, G-EZMS_2.jpg and G-EZMS_3.jpg

I keep a maximum of three because I save all of my spotting log into Spot2Log spotting software which allows you to save three photos against each viewing. Sometime I cant not just keep three so I will keep more but only put the three best ones in Spot2Log.

So my process is: Shoot > Pre-Process > Edit > Save > Rename > Add to Spot2Log.



www.spot2log.com
User currently offlineBogac From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 52 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6611 times:

Another thing I wonder is the size of your JPGs. I guess after editing RAWs you guys turn them into JPEGs without changing the size. Then, if you need to post them into a 1024 px size limited forum, you resize, right?

User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9805 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 6595 times:
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Quoting Bogac (Reply 14):
Another thing I wonder is the size of your JPGs. I guess after editing RAWs you guys turn them into JPEGs without changing the size. Then, if you need to post them into a 1024 px size limited forum, you resize, right?

Yes. I upload full-size JPEGs to Smugmug and Flickr, so I keep those. Then resize for uploading here.

Haven't tried resizing when I export from RAW, so can't comment on how that compares.



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