JKPhotos From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 108 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4572 times:
Hi,
I am planning a trip to Amsterdam. I found a lot of information and quite a few good guides. I will be there with my car, so with the information I have now finding these spots should not be a problem.
I am especially keen on the following aircrafts:
Surinam A340
Kenya 777
Eva Air 773
I might be wrong but from looking at the database or flightradar I have the impression that (of course depending on the wind) they tend to land on specific runways:
For example Kenya Airways mostly seem to land on runway 27 "Buitenvelderbaan", whereas with the Surinam I might stand a good chance on the "Polderbaan".
So is there any pattern that aircraft coming form certain directions tend to follow or how runways are used? I know that there are always exceptions to the rules. But perhaps I can get some useful advice.
ptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3779 posts, RR: 20 Reply 1, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4553 times:
Hi Jay,
When runways 18R, Polderbaan, and 27 or (more commonly) 18C, Zwanenburgbaan, are in use for landings, the most westerly runway, ie 18R, usually gets the traffic from the west (UK/Atlantic) and the other runway the flights from the east. As you say, there are many exceptions, and I'm not sure what the Kenya Aw routing and thus the more likely runway is.
It's similar when 06 and 36R are in use for landing, and when two runways are in use for departures.
I = inbound peak, two landing runways, one departure runway
O = outbound peak, two departure runways, one landing runway
0700 – 0920 LT - I
0920 – 1040 LT - O
1040 – 1140 LT - I
1140 – 1240 LT - O
1240 – 1400 LT - I
1400 – 1500 LT - O
1500 – 1600 LT - I
1600 – 1820 LT - O
1820 – 2000 LT - I
2000 – 2200 LT - O
As a rule, the aircraft you want will arrive/depart just around the time of a change
JKPhotos From Germany, joined Nov 2011, 108 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4520 times:
Hi Peter,
this is the response I hoped for! Many thanks for it.
I already guessed that there were certain times when they use 2 runways for startings / landings / but I did not know that they were fixed. Do these times change, like for example with the winter timetable in use or are the relatively fix?
Thanks also for the link! I think I can use this very well.
The Kenya AW routing comes from the east, that is probaly why they used the 27 when I followed their flights.
From what I saw there is a good spot for 27 landings too. In order to get there do I need to park my car at the McD spot and walk to the other side of the runway?
And yeah unfortunately there is an exception to every rule. I just wanted to know where I have the best chance to get the planes I am looking forward to and to understand the runway system, which is not as obvious as with other airports.
Quoting JKPhotos (Reply 2): From what I saw there is a good spot for 27 landings too. In order to get there do I need to park my car at the McD spot and walk to the other side of the runway?
You mean Spot 9. See the comment. It's not a very nice stretch of road to hang out, though. There is also free parking (at least for a few hours) near the East apron, which is a bit closer.
The only difference between me and a madman is that I am not mad (Salvador Dali)
It's quite a walk from either Spot 16 or Spot 15, but the good thing about that is that this is a peaceful cycling lane where you can sit in the grass.
The situation at Spot 15 has improved recently as there's access to an unused field now and you don't have to stand on the side of the road.
syncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 1983 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4083 times:
I'll be at AMS next month but won't have much time to do spotting, or a car. Can anyone tell me if the terrace is before or after security and/or customs for when I arrive?
hanbar From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 14 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (8 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4018 times:
@ syncmaster
The terrace is before the customs / security, that means for you on the other side but easily to get there when you have arrived and got through the customs.
syncmaster From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 1983 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (8 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3863 times:
The terrace is before the customs / security, that means for you on the other side but easily to get there when you have arrived and got through the customs.
That's perfect, thanks! I'll be arriving on KLM from ORD and flying back a week later, but when I arrive I'll be hoping on the train to Brussels so I was hoping I'd be able to stop by for a least a few minutes coming and going.
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