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National Guardsmen-How Much Power?  
User currently online727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 7457 posts, RR: 20
Posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1949 times:

Exactly how much power do these guys have? Can they arrest or detain you? Take your film? I know they will try, but legally, do you HAVE to do what the say?

I feel woozy....what did you put in that Pudding Pop?
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User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 20
Reply 1, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1913 times:

I've seen them take film before because the security gate was about 150 feet in the background.

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User currently offlineDa fwog From United Kingdom, joined Aug 1999, 867 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

...while I've seen two national guardsmen at LGA posing for a New York Post photographer about that distance from a security checkpoint (during October - the weekend when the National Guard were put on duty at New York's airports). Go figure.

User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2123 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

I dunno how much power they have, but I do know they think too much of themselves just standing around and treating passengers without respsect. They can be there fine. But treat passengers with respect and dignity. 99% of us are honest travelers just trying to get from point A to point B. It's that 1% of people who ruin it for all of us.

As far as I am concerned, I don't feel any more safe in the airport with them there. I hope an NG or MP reads this.

Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlineJderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1763 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

i don't know how much power they have....but it is certainly intimidating to have National Guard dudes there with m-16s around their shoulder...

fortunately, the one NG that came up to me in ATL and got all up in my face about taking pics didn't have a rifle with him...he was all concerned that i was taking pictures of 'people' and stuff on the ramp or whatever....i was just taking pictures of planes so it was no problem then, when earlier it was "FAA rules that picture taking of airplanes is not allowed", according to a *highly informed* gate agent...the airline of which will remain unmentioned...::cough::ASA!!::cough::  Wink/being sarcastic

so, i'm not sure how much power the NG's have, but i remember when Chris Weldy had his equipment confiscated at ORD by the the po po's...(a.k.a. police)
so i wouldn't want to test the power of the NG's, especially if they have a rifle in their hands  Wow!

i hope we all can fight this...it's gone far enough...i know that i am willing, if i think it is for the good of us photographers, to get arrested so i can make a big deal about the injustices going on...because the reason why it is continuing is because no one knows about it but us..i know that i am ready to fight for my hobby...well..it's more than just a hobby....this is my PASSION...

jonathan d.

"my soul is in the sky" - shakespeare
User currently offlineFlybhx From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

The gate agent was probably correct from a certain point of view. Most airport bye laws prohibit cameras on the ramps probably only to keep the workers mind on work and not getting quality ramp shots!!

Over in England the US tourism industry is spending millions on advertising to try and get visitors back. The attitude problem the staff are displaying will soon put them off. It's much cheaper for me to go to Amsterdam or Frankfurt to get good shots than to come to the US and get abused.

User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (14 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

When I was at ORD in mid-July I was taking shots of a VS 747-200 and Chicago Police drives up in a Crown Vic. I said that i was taking pix of that VS there and they said fine, they even offered me a ride to a restricted area so i could take better photos. Can u imagine this taking place at ORD? Now if they saw you i wouldnt be surprised if they threw you onto a fence and cuffed you. Crazy poos!

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