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User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3924 posts, RR: 18
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

Hi all,

It would seem that the colours in my photos have an abberration towards the red, but not over the whole spectrum; only towards the highlights/light parties.

Am I seeing things, of might this make any sense? If so, what might cause it? And what might fix it?

Thanks,

Peter 


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User currently offlinemaaximm From Russia, joined Mar 2009, 2 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4514 times:

Hi, try to correct in Photoshop tool "color change"

User currently offlinedendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1667 posts, RR: 62
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4494 times:
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Peter
The curve can be used to give very precise colour control
An excellent tutorial here

http://www.thegoldenmean.com/technique/curves1.html

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3924 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4485 times:

Hi Mick.

Unfortunately I'm using Photoshop Elements nowadays, and although Elements 10 has a basic Curves function, it doesn't offer separate colour channels.

There is a way of removing some red or adding some blue to the highlights, though. I think I'm starting to learn how to deal with this, but would rather prevent it in the first place.

Would this be a peculiarity of my camera type (Nikon D90) or even my copy?



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4418 times:
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Quoting ptrjong (Thread starter):
Am I seeing things, of might this make any sense? If so, what might cause it? And what might fix it?

Could you perhaps post some examples? It sounds like you're describing chromatic aberration which is caused by flaws in the lens, but is often correctable with software. It would be best to see some examples to be sure.


User currently offlinescopedude From Indonesia, joined Oct 2010, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4409 times:

Quoting ptrjong (Reply 3):
There is a way of removing some red or adding some blue to the highlights, though. I think I'm starting to learn how to deal with this, but would rather prevent it in the first place.

That sounds like chromatic aberration from the lens. I personally use LR 4.2 and it removes this kind of aberration very well. Just use either the lens profile and/or tick the Remove Chromatic Aberration box. Sometimes atmosphere can cause this kind of effect too.



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User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3924 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4409 times:

Hi dlowwa,

I haven't noticed differences with different lenses, so I wouldn't think it's a lens problem.

This one is straight from the camera, only resized.

http://www.horizonten.nl/pix/204.jpg

The light parties seem a bit too red, and the dark parties a bit too blue. To be honest I don't see it myself, but the pixel info confirms it to some extent, and this often seems to be noticeable for you screeners, at least after my editing.

If you tell me this picture is fine colour-wise, then I'm obviously over-editing at some point.

Peter 

(Mods feel free to move this to the Feedback forum if you must, although I think it's a pity, since this forum is so dead.)



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User currently offlinescopedude From Indonesia, joined Oct 2010, 53 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4398 times:

That might be atmospheric, high humidity in the air causing such aberration. It's like shooting through a giant lens.

just my 0.02  



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4396 times:
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Quoting ptrjong (Reply 6):
If you tell me this picture is fine colour-wise, then I'm obviously over-editing at some point.

No, I definitely notice the pink cast you're talking about. The atmospheric conditions (i.e. very low contrast) may be exacerbating it. Can't say for sure what's causing it, but possibly camera related. If you have the raw file, that would be pretty useful in determining whether it's that or maybe something else. You can send me it if you do.


User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3924 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4379 times:

Thanks guys. I don't think this is limited to this particular day.

Dlowwa, where can I send the RAW file to? Thanks.



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User currently offlinedendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1667 posts, RR: 62
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4377 times:
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I can see the cast too though it is not much at all and I would find that very simple to correct just using colour balance.

Quoting ptrjong (Reply 6):
If you tell me this picture is fine colour-wise, then I'm obviously over-editing at some point.

That could be an issue ! If you are boosting the saturation that will exaggerate any cast, quite a common problem too.

Mick


User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4376 times:
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Quoting ptrjong (Reply 9):
Dlowwa, where can I send the RAW file to? Thanks.

Send me a message and I'll give you my email.


User currently onlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9901 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4336 times:
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Quoting ptrjong (Reply 6):
This one is straight from the camera, only resized.

http://www.horizonten.nl/pix/204.jpg

The light parties seem a bit too red, and the dark parties a bit too blue. To be honest I don't see it myself, but the pixel info confirms it to some extent, and this often seems to be noticeable for you screeners, at least after my editing.

I see the same thing quite frequently with my 50D. When editing the RAW file prior to exporting, I've gotten in the habit of tweaking the red channel a bit to reduce the cast. If it needs more, then when editing the JPEG, I'll either use color balance, or more commonly, I'll go to Levels, select the red channel, and move the midtones slider down to somewhere between .92 and .97, depending on how much correction is needed.

Someone else on here mentioned that technique, but I can't remember who.

The worst is shooting against an overcast sky. Those are a giant pain to color balance properly when everything seems to have a red cast.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 4222 times:
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So, having seen the RAW file, it does seem that it is a very simple white-balance issue, which is of course easily fixed when converting from RAW (somewhat relevant to the other thread about shooting jpeg vs. RAW, as this kind of correction is typically much more difficult when working from a jpeg only). Vik, the in-camera white balance settings applied do have that slightly red cast you describe, but he's using a Nikon.

Compare to the version Peter posted above:

http://imageshack.us/a/img825/9272/204i.jpg


User currently onlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9901 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 4219 times:
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Quoting dlowwa (Reply 13):
Vik, the in-camera white balance settings applied do have that slightly red cast you describe, but he's using a Nikon.

I know, I was just mentioning what I usually do about it, since he seems to have a similar issue.

To fix that shot, did you just change the color temp? Or was there more to it?

Thanks.



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4216 times:
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Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 14):
To fix that shot, did you just change the color temp? Or was there more to it?

Just the white balance in ACR. Temperature about the same, but tint more to the left (green).


User currently offlineptrjong From Netherlands, joined Mar 2005, 3924 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4209 times:

Thanks Dana.

Quoting dlowwa (Reply 15):
Temperature about the same, but tint more to the left (green).

So this should be the basic trick, both in Camera RAW and in my camera?



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User currently offlinedlowwa From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 7328 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4203 times:
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Quoting ptrjong (Reply 16):
So this should be the basic trick, both in Camera RAW and in my camera?

It will depend on each scene, as light is never consistent, but for the image above that was all it took, yes.


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