dendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1630 posts, RR: 63 Posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4926 times:
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As a result of a complaint to Headscreeners this FlickR user was brought to my attention and so far as I can see every image on it under aviation has been taken from this site. What is weird is that the airliners.net footer is intact on most but the FlickR user has applied his own copyright marks, obviously a nonsense.
I have made a complaint to FlickR about my misused images and in general terms on behalf of other contributors here but take a look and follow the complaints procedures at the bottom of the page
scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11807 posts, RR: 48 Reply 1, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4906 times:
Mick, thanks for bringing this to our attention. I had to trawl through quite a few pages before I found one of mine. I've completed the complaint procedure as well, mentioning that he had used lots of images from here.
Interestingly, the cheeky bugger includes his email address in his fraudulent copyright notice - email@example.com
Psych From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 3012 posts, RR: 59 Reply 2, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4878 times:
Mick - is this not an example where individuals' complaints should be backed up by some 'higher' authority from the site/DM? Clearly his theft of images is to the detriment of the site, as well as individual photographers, because he is enabling A.net-hosted images to be viewed without having to go through the site - hence a cost to the site owners.
The more complaints the better, though I would have thought a legally worded email/communication from DM or their legal guys might have a more powerful effect on his behaviour than those from individual photographers, whom he clearly has no respect for or fear of, otherwise he would not have stolen the images and brainlessly tried to 'copyright' them for himself.
dendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1630 posts, RR: 63 Reply 3, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 4866 times:
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The dilemma is that DM do not own the copyright and if a photographer does not mind their photos being so used/abused, that is their choice.
I have however complained on behalf of all and it may be that FlickR will take them all down on that basis but it is better if more people whose images are used actually complain.
DM are in fact in a very similar position to FlickR, they host images with good faith that the photographer holds the copyright and remove any that we find are in breach of it. On this site though, images are screened, on FlickR they are not so we filter a lot out, they act on complaints
beaverhunter From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 8 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4785 times:
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I have sent my complaint to flickr and I hope they receive many complaints from those whose copyright has been abused by this individual. If flickr wants to retain any credibility, they must act on this quickly.
scbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 11807 posts, RR: 48 Reply 9, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4692 times:
Quoting beaverhunter (Reply 6): I hope they receive many complaints from those whose copyright has been abused by this individual.
The one issue I can see is that he has a lot of images - I very nearly gave up looking to see if any were mine after about ten pages. I also only used the first one I found for a complaint, hopefully Flikr will shut him down rather than only remove specific images that have been noticed.
dendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1630 posts, RR: 63 Reply 11, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4663 times:
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There are quite a few blanks now so it looks as though FlickR only take the images down where there are complaints, I guess until a breaking point is reached.
I have actually e-mailed a few dozen people too.
DL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 330 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4587 times:
Quoting JohnJ (Reply 14): Better watch out... starting on about page 37 is a series of pictures titled "Dale's Collection of Tactical Weapons." This guy looks to be packing some serious heat.
Jeez, I'll say! Quite a few guns there.
I am beginning to think that perhaps this guy thinks he's being legal, especially given that he left the a.net copyright on. Also, he left the by: ........... tag on too. Perhaps he just wanted to share the images, and wasn't sure how to do so. Now, before ya'll jump down my throat, I think what he is doing is very wrong, and unjust, as well as very muchin violation of the copyright. I don't condone the behavior, nor do I think it is correct. Like I said, maybe he made an honest mistake and isn't sure how to properly share or link the images. He should have taken a look at the link page before doing this, though.
Just like the shirt says, Boeing Builds It Better!
As Mick noted Demand Media host the images and the photographers hold the copyright which limits what they can do. That said I have made a more formal complaint on behalf of all photographers affected by this persons misuse of their images. Additionally I am asking the legal team if there is anything we can do in relation to misuse of the Airliners.net trademark.
Some images still retained the watermark which meant that the person is a member of the site, we have found their account and permanently banned them from the site. Any further accounts found to be owned or created by them will also be removed.
It appears images are being removed and I encourage those who are affected to contact any of their friends if their images are also being misused. There are some who may not read the forum and I'll write to them as well.
jspitfire From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 308 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4519 times:
Found one of mine as well. Has anyone filed a complaint via Yahoo Canada? The page it takes me to says I have to physically mail them a letter detailing the copyright infringment. Seems a little unusual.
Oops you beat me to it Moose. Thanks Joe for bringing this to our attention. I was ready to start a witch hunt.
All the flickr photos have this on them: Request to license DWissman's photos via Getty Images. Hopefully a professional agency would be smart enough to realize there are 2 different copyrights on the photos.
Silver1SWA From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 4665 posts, RR: 27 Reply 21, posted (11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4486 times:
Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 19): All the flickr photos have this on them: Request to license DWissman's photos via Getty Images. Hopefully a professional agency would be smart enough to realize there are 2 different copyrights on the photos.
All that means is that a Flickr user is allowing Ghetty to invite the photos for licensing through their service. If Ghetty was interested in them, they would contact the photographer with an invitation to join their service.
I had that request to license thing set on my photos and eventually 6 of my photos were selected. I had to go through a formal process that involved uploading high res versions. So really, that request to license thing you see on his page doesn't mean much in this situation. No ones stolen photos are being licensed out through Flickr.
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