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Best Film Scanner For Old Negatives?  
User currently offlinemirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4894 times:

Hi,

I, and everybody else who was into uploading pictures to Airliners.net before the digital photography boom, had a scanner to digitilize negatives, the HP S20. Nowadays this scanner is not working so I was wondering what are the best film scanners today? I would like to scan old negatives so any help is appreciated.

thanks
Luis

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User currently offlinegranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 63
Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4852 times:
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Hi Luis

Hope you are keeping well.

I get great results with an Epson Perfection 4490 flatbed. Old machine now.
If you don't want to spend too much have a look at their range.

I also use Vuescan software rather than the Epson bundled one.

Regards

Gary


User currently offlinemirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4840 times:

Hi Gary,

Thanks for your reply, hope you're fine. That's a start, now I have something to research, because after 10 years without touching a film scanner I'm a kind of lost between all the brands and models.

thanks
Luis


User currently offlinedendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1668 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4837 times:
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Luis
Unless you have a huge number to scan I would go for a flat-bed too.
I do have a dedicated slide scanner but the quality I get with a flat-bed is almost as good but, importantly it is very much faster.
Mine is a Canon 9950F which will also scan roll film (and larger). I have not looked for a while but I bet it is discontinued but there is probably a more up to date one or, as Gary suggests, Epson do a few.

Mick Bajcar


User currently offlinemirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4832 times:

Thanks Mick,

My preference is a dedicated negative scanner, even a second hand in good condition, in Ebay, would be good for me. Epson has nice ones, V700 and V750 but they are expensive. I do have a large collection of negatives, would like to scan some again, to improve them.

Luis


User currently offlinedendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1668 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4826 times:
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Luis
I have a Konica Minolta Dimage Scan Elite (there is a Mark II Version which is faster) and the results are superb, up to 5400DPI though I rarely scan above 2700
I have seen them quite cheaply on e-bay though they are still sought after.

Mick


User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 740 posts, RR: 16
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4810 times:

The Nikon Coolscan range is worth looking at, though I think most models are discontinued.

One thing to beware of with older scanners - they may not have drivers for Windows 7 or later. I think most will work anyway, but worth doing some googling on potential issues before buying.

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlineJez From UK - England, joined Feb 2005, 69 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4795 times:

I use an Epson V500 which seems to work very well for a reasonable price. It has ICE which I find is a big help. I scan at 3200 dpi and after a bit of straightening, cropping etc. it will turn out an 11-12 Mp image. I tried scanning at higher resolution but found it didn't really give me any extra detail.

User currently offlinemirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4770 times:

Thanks for your feedback, the point about the drivers is very important indeed, I'm using Windows 7, some scanners I had a look don't have drivers for Windows 7, no option.

I wasn't expecting the Nikon Coolscan models to be so expensive, Colin.

Luis


User currently offlinedcaviation From Poland, joined Aug 2011, 208 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4766 times:
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I've been using this scanner for my negatives and I like it. Quality of the scans and speed of the scanner is not bad.

http://www.adorama.com/ICDP8100FS.html


User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 740 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4749 times:

Quoting mirage (Reply 8):
I wasn't expecting the Nikon Coolscan models to be so expensive

Well the top end models certainly are (8000, 9000) - and I must admit I'm surprised to see how well the older models have held their value (unlike DSLRs   ).

I'd look for a IV or 4000 at a good price. This will run under Windows 7 - from memory, what I did was download (free) the software for the Nikon V, which works just fine, just a few of the later features aren't available.

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlinemirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4710 times:

Thank you very much for the help.

Luis


User currently offlinegranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 63
Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4690 times:
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Luis

Hope you find something and let us know how you get on.

One this is for sure, once you get back into scanning you will get great satisfaction with the end result if the scan and processing turns out well!

Regards

Gary


User currently offlinemirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4687 times:

I agree, one thing I must have in a dedicated film scanner is the ICE technology, to remove dust and scratch, because it was the lack of ICE and the insane time I spent in photoshop to manually remove dust and scratch that made me quit film photography and move to digital, back in 2003.

I like the Nikon Coolscan IV but it's not easy to find them for sale, at least in ebay, in case there are more reference websites for this kind of sales, please share.

Thanks
Luis


User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 740 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4683 times:

Luis - in case you don't know, ICE (at least as implemented on the Coolscan 4) won't work on Kodachrome or B&W negs.

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlinedendrobatid From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1668 posts, RR: 61
Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4674 times:
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Luis
Don't ignore the Konica Minolta Dimage Scan Elite and have a look for some reviews.
Most reviews put it better than the Nikon and it should be cheaper (one went on Ebay in the UK a few days ago for £220, about Eu 300)
The problem could be if it breaks but I think Sony will repair them
I had a Nikon one before, a Coolscan IV and it was nothing like as good as the Konica one.

Mick


User currently offlinegranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 63
Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4648 times:
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Hello

The Epson has ICE Technology too but don't use it, much preferring the VueScan software.

Regards

Gary


User currently offlinemirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4623 times:

The VueScan can make something like the ICE, removing dust and scratch, Gary?

Thanks Colin and Mick for your help and inputs.

Luis


User currently offlinegranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5568 posts, RR: 63
Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4588 times:
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Hi Luis

Yes, think it does.

I found the Epson software not very good. To the general public it would be good but you know how us aviation photographers are  

VueScan let's you select the type of film that was used and fixes colour casts and stuff. Still a lot to play with. They do let you have a free trial so you can make up your mind.

This print was scanned with the flatbed and VueScan:


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Regards

Gary


User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 740 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4580 times:

The latest version of Vuescan can support ICE - but it may depend on the scanner as ICE is a hardware function (in essence it does an additional infrared scan to detect dust).

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlinemirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

I was looking at dedicated negative scanners but now I changed my mind, I can't afford to spend big money only to scan some negatives, I have a big collection but my idea is not to scan everything again, only a few here and there. So I'll look into flat bed scanners able to scan negatives, with decent quality, and ICE.

Thanks for the help
Luis


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