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User currently offlineMrMitch From Australia, joined Feb 2013, 140 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 3 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4679 times:

Hello everyone, I'm specifically asking the people who have been to the Avalon Airshow here in Melbourne. Has anyone tried taking images from outside the actual airport? I believe if I go into the paddocks near the airport I could get some decent shots with my big lens...

Any help would be appreciated!

Mitch Getson
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User currently offlineAviationVisuals From Australia, joined Jun 2011, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4637 times:

Unless by 'big lens" you mean at least 600mm (which still might not be enough) i think you will be struggling.. All of the surrounding areas that are outside the airport boundaries are quite a distance. The closest spot would be beach rd and even there it's really only good for approach shots. Also during the show (friday, saturday, sunday) I think its possible that you would be moved along by the police if you were on beach rd. On the trade days you might be ok shooting from there. I have never tried shooting from there on a show day so i really can't say with any certainty.

Hope this helps.

User currently offlineMrMitch From Australia, joined Feb 2013, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4620 times:

I'm thinking about being in the fields around the airport so it would probably be closer than Beach road to get shots. Wouldn't they be flying low anyway for the air-show though?

Mitch Getson
User currently offlineAviationVisuals From Australia, joined Jun 2011, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4590 times:

Yes they will be flying low, its not the altitude thats the issue, its the distance. From some outside spots you would be close to 1km from the runway, and the display line is only about 150m west of that so you will still be a very long way away. There are no fields around the airport that you can actually get into, the closest roads around the airport are Avalon rd, Dandos rd, pousties rd and beach rd. The land you see to the west of the runway when looking at a map is all airport land or private property neither of which should be entered without permission.
What sort of shots are you looking to get from outside that you can't from inside the airport?

User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4443 times:

This from a Yank who has never been closer than Honolulu to Australia; but who HAS "shot" quite a few airplanes in flight, at quite a few air shows.

Realizing that I have zero knowledge of your experience, or your "kit"........photographing planes at any air show is a very difficult proposition, even when you're "positioned" perfectly; almost everything is working against you; the subjects are moving fast, they're seldom close, and even the BEST D SLR out there isn't going to give accurate exposures, because it always "sees" more sky than it does airplane ! (That's largely why almost all of the great air show pictures you see were taken by people who have doing it for a looooooong time ! ) ( and have some "serious equipment" )

I know I'll catch a lot of flac saying this, but even hand-holding a 200 mm lens is never going to be any way near as sharp as one taken from a tripod mounted camera. And when it come to tripod mounted cameras........99% of them are going to be on either a pan-tilt head ( whih is useless for tracking anything moving faster than a snail ), or else it's gonna be on a ball head, (which is better, but not much ) If you seriously want to photograph performing planes at an air show, you need a very solid tripod, with a good gimbal head on it; and when you have that.......you need to be as close as possible to "the action".

Assuming you're with me so far, I'll recommend you start practicing up with spot metering, dynamic auto focusing, and the faster the shutter speeds, the better ! Oh........another thing to throughly familiarize yourself with prior to the air show.......how to shoot "bursts" ( hopefully in the 7 to 10 fps category ) if all this seems to ":suggest" a D-4 with a 300 mm / f2.8, it would definitely help !

I have a good friend who was a professional photographer 25 years ago; now that she's retired, her "passion" is racing; so about a year ago, she bought herself a brand new Nikon D 4, a new 400 mm / f 2.8, and an Induro gimbal head; she's now doing some great work; but she tells me that even with the best kit available.......it's a bitch ! getting good pictures of fast moving things takes a lot of time, a lot of practice, a lot of experience, and a BUNCH of "bucks" !

Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
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