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Nikon 70-200mm 2.8 Vrii Worth The Purchase On Sale  
User currently offlinechuck9941 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 194 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4482 times:

With the 11th hour approaching on the $300 Nikon rebate for the 70-200m 2.8 VRII I'm still debating if it's worth the $2k investment. Wouldn't mind some additional feedback in addition to most all other reviews saying great lens, hefty price.

I'm using a D80 and have been waiting for the mythical D400 to upgrade the body but if I can get a good piece of glass at a good price then the body can wait I guess.

Most of my shots on the site are with the Nikon 70-300mm 3.5-5.6 VR. I'd like extra range but again it's the waiting game for the 80-400mm update. With the 70-200mm I could at least add a teleconverter to get the range and end up with the f stop. This would come in handy at airshows.

LAX and LGB are my home airports so the 200mm range should be ok. Knowingly it's a little short for all but the heavies at LAX but does the quality and speed make up for the lack of 100mm?

I would like to have something that is pretty resourceful should I ever end up expanding into A2A or other ventures outside of aviation. the 70-200mm seems to be the standard for weddings and sports whether shot Nikon or Canon. I also like the idea of being able to get great bokeh in general shooting.

Thanks


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User currently offlineunattendedbag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2327 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4463 times:

Quoting chuck9941 (Thread starter):
With the 70-200mm I could at least add a teleconverter to get the range and end up with the f stop. This would come in handy at airshows.

I have the 70-200mm vr ii and I love it. It was worth every penny I paid. I also have the 2x iii converter and it does well with the lens. You will not regret the purchase.



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User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4456 times:

[quote=chuck9941,reply=0] With the 70-200mm I could at least add a teleconverter to get the range and end up with the f stop. This would come in handy at air shows.

Chuck; First of all........the 70-200 / 2.8 is probably one of the most useful lenses that Nikon has ever made. but I never "suggest" lenses to anyone, because I have no idea what "anyone" may wish to take pictures of; yes, anything that costs $2,000 or more is a lot of money; but that's only relative to what ? Personally, I couldn't be without my 70-200; at least "until" or"if" I ever get around to buying a 400mm f2.8; ( and they're "not cheap" either !) I seldom photograph airplanes; not that I don't like airplanes, more that I live where opportunities for airplane photography are very poor.

Don't compare the 70-200/f2.8 to the 70-300/ 3.5-5.6; there IS no comparison. You mention the 200mm being "ok" for such and such airport; I tend to look at camera gear from the other direction; I tend to buy what I'm convinced is practical, then I find ways to photograph subjects which interest me, with the gear that I own. You mentioned that Nikon has a "special" on which is soon to end; I know MANY people who use Nikon cameras, and Nikon lenses; I also know a WHOLE BUNCH of them who have recently bought brand new D-800s and D600s that have had all sorts of problems with oil spots on sensors, problems with focusing......etc. etc........in the meantime........I have kept right on taking pictures, have not had ONE problem..........with my 70-200 /f2.8. my 12-24 /f4 (and a few more)....all of which I bought on eBay for MUCH less than Nikon will be selling that lens for, 5 years from now. I'm NOT saying that buying new lenses from Nikon is a "band deal"; I AM saying that it's NO guarantee that the thing will work right, and that it will ALWAYS cost more.

I just now edited this so I could add this; you mentioned a TC; as I'm sure you already know, the TC costs you "a bunch" up front; so if you're even thinking about using a TC, START OUT with at least an f/2.8 lens; I have a VERY good shot "online" that illustrates what I'm talking about very well; it was made with a 35 year old, 300 mm, manual focus AI lens, with a TC-201, on a D 300s body; it's a pretty good shot, but boy, do I ever wish that old 300mm lens was an F 2.8 ! THAT's exactly where you need that big hunk of glass up front! ( the shot was actually made with an effective focal length of 900mm )

I'm MUCH older than you are; because of that, I have always wanted a better view of my LCD; I tried a Hoodman loupe. It's "ok" but I gave it to my wife; I happened to be reading a book about lighting, and the author had a Zacuto finder on his Canon D SLR; said he absolutely LOVED the thing; he's a smart guy, and I love his books, so I figured anything he liked, I'd probably like; next stop..B&H's website; found the Zacuto OK; but it's NOT cheap! Almost $400 ! (but by now, I gotta have one.) Back to eBay......there are 12 listed at the moment.......all but one have a "buy it now" of $379 ! I went for the one that started out at $102; (it ended up costing me $280) I just picked it up at the Post Office today; now I love it even more ! The "frame" that mounts it to the camera body (that I assumed was plastic, is actually CNC milled aluminum; very nice indeed' !
Get this; even I don't understand how this can be; this thing was purchased new from B&H (in NYC) less than a month ago; the original invoice is in the box with the thing; who ever bought it paid almost $400, (and it even has a few "spare pieces" which cost another $50); That's exactly why I get a lot of camera stuff on eBay; been doing it for 15 years now; but if you're wondering about whether to buy that 70-200 while it's on "special".............all I can say is, it's a FABULOUS lens ! But it's NOT where I would buy it at. Feel free to IM me if you need any ideas. I very seldom post on this forum.



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User currently offlinechuck9941 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 194 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4411 times:

Thanks for the tips. There's no doubt it's a great lens. It's that decision of is it the right purchase for my current and future needs. It does seem to have much more practical use than just aviation which is a big plus but at the same time will probably keep me from having the long reach that would be nice for aviation.
I will look around the net and see what the used prices look like if it's not a huge difference then I'm still partial to new but given this is a serious lens I would guess that most who have it would take care of it.



Oh, it's a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels and it looks like a big Tylenol.
User currently offlineGeezer From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 1479 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4361 times:

Quoting chuck9941 (Reply 3):
I will look around the net and see what the used prices look like if it's not a huge difference then I'm still partial to new but given this is a serious lens I would guess that most who have it would take care of it.

Good thing I looked at this again ! Always remember this.........two completely different "types" buy and use "high end" cameras and lenses; advanced amateurs and Pros; of the two, (and this is only a "rule of thumb"), about 98% of amateurs take MUCH better care of equipment, than do MANY pros.

any time I'm seriously considering considering buying anything thats in the "big bucks" category, I always contact the seller, and I ask questions; "are you a pro ? what kinda work do you do ? etc., etc. Really ! you're crazy if you don't ! Some pros do take great care of stuff, but many, (especially magazine and print media guys, using "other people's equipment"), treat cameras just like cab drivers treat taxi cabs; ROUGH !

I bought an 80-200 /f2,8 from a VERY nice Chinese fellow in San Fran once; I emailed him and asked a bunch of questions; he gave me a very lengthy, detailed reply; I'm thinking...this guy is OK; when I received the lens, exactly like he described it, BUT with a 77 mm Heliopan brass circular polarizer on it ! I emailed him back.......told him I would send the polarizer back; his reply was....."No no...you keep! You good guy !" Communication between buyers and sellers is paramount !

People never cease to amaze me; they do so many things, for so many different reasons; a lot of people would never DREAM of buying a used camera or a used lens; ( for fear of losing money I guess ) yet the exact same people think nothing of spending $1,000 a year on lottery tickets ! That's a GUARANTEED loser ! ( yeah, but "some one's" gonna win..) yeah, "some one" is, but :"some one's" odds of winning are like 93 zillion to 1 that "some body else" is probably gonna be the winner! I'm a big believer in the "laws of probability"; I always try to make them work "for me" rather than "against me". If I would have bought the stuff I've bought on just eBay new.........I shudder to think how much more money I would have spent; and I've had almost no "losers". ( and I think I may be the only 80 year old guy in history who has NEVER bought a single lottery ticket, ever !)



Stupidity: Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting a different result; Albert Einstein
User currently offlinemegatop412 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4314 times:

Dude, that lens is worth every cent of the regular price. The sale makes it a steal. I am job hunting at the moment but if I were not I would already have snatched one up.

The ONLY caveat to it being such a great piece of glass is the impractical zoom range. That's right, I said IMpractical. Even the lowly 55-200mmVR is more useful. In many cases, 70mm is not wide enough and 200mm is definitely not long enough, especially for airshows. Put a TC on it and yes you can get to 400, but at the expense of lower IQ and loss of 70-140mm, which I use regularly.

Now, if you do other types of shooting(as you mentioned) such as wedding or portraiture, that I think would help the purchase make more sense to you. Even if I do end up buying it, I would always be taking my Bigmos with me for the long end of things.


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