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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6135 times:

Hey guys, I got some questions about rain photos....

I was at NRT yesterday and because of time restraints I can only go to NRT when I have to meet someone at the airport or drop them off, as was the case yesterday.....and yesterday the weather SUCKED so much. Rain all day, and foggy.


SO what are some tips you guys have for rain shots?

My gear- Nikon D3200


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User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6407 posts, RR: 38
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6128 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter):
SO what are some tips you guys have for rain shots?

Wait for it to stop 

Though when you do that, it leaves a wet runway which is perfect for departures and reverse thrusters!



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9783 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6121 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter):
SO what are some tips you guys have for rain shots?

Make sure your gear is either weather-sealed or well-protected.  
Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Wait for it to stop

Heh....I don't like shooting in heavy rain, but some fog/mist/light rain are some of my favorite conditions.

Know what you're getting into, as well. I used to go shoot on cloudy days, and then be really frustrated by the resulting shots - low contrast, grainy, drab colors, etc. I had to tell myself, "well, you're the one who decided to go shoot on a cloudy day - what did you expect??" The shots can look quite different from good-light-shots.



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12393 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6065 times:
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Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 2):
Know what you're getting into, as well. I used to go shoot on cloudy days, and then be really frustrated by the resulting shots - low contrast, grainy, drab colors, etc. I had to tell myself, "well, you're the one who decided to go shoot on a cloudy day - what did you expect??"

This is true for your local airport. It's another matter when you've flown halfway round the World and the only choice is grotty shots or no shots.   



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User currently offlineTonyholt777 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2010, 185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6042 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter):
I can only go to NRT when I have to meet someone at the airport or drop them off,

Oddly enough I find that to be the case when I get my MAN photos - usually its when I'm the free taxi service for family/friends, if I drop them off or am going to meet them I always put my camera in the car and head to the southside to pass an hour or too. Being MAN its often a mixed bag of weather, anyhow FWIW I like to try my hand at different techniques.

I took this one when the ground RVR was 100m so I could only hear/kinda see parts of the departing planes, however I caught it as it emerged from the low lying fog (note the airfield antenae bottom right)

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Etiha...d=9dfda1c1f1075a67a0df0164254b9e7f

In wet weather I often pan to see what effect(s) emerge - Appreciate it's not the most exciting shot on here but it worked

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Flybe...d=9dfda1c1f1075a67a0df0164254b9e7f

Best of luck

Tony


User currently offlineckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 730 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6040 times:

Always have a Plan B - what else is in the area? Museums etc. If you can hang around till dark, lights and rain make a pretty cool mix.

It is of course very frustrating when you invest time and money on a photo expedition and the weather doesn't co-operate. In my professional role, I always have to assume the worst and work out with the client what we will do in case of bad weather in advance - rescheduling is sometimes not an option, so a different approach to the day's shooting is the only answer. A classic example is wedding photography - anyone worth hiring will always have figured out a rain contingency.

If I arrive at an airport in crap conditions, I might spend some time shooting airport interiors, passengers etc. Much more chance of getting an interesting pic than standing in the rain shooting grey skies. There's also a lot to be said for trying something different. It's not ideal, but it's all about turning a negative into a positive.

Cheers,

Colin



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12393 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6022 times:
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Quoting ckw (Reply 5):
If I arrive at an airport in crap conditions, I might spend some time shooting airport interiors, passengers etc. Much more chance of getting an interesting pic than standing in the rain shooting grey skies. There's also a lot to be said for trying something different. It's not ideal, but it's all about turning a negative into a positive.

Colin, that's a very healthy attitude.   

As someone who is by default optimistic, I'm afraid I get a right grump-on if I'm on a trip and the weather is crap.



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User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5974 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Thread starter):
what are some tips you guys have for rain shots?

- Try to shoot close up so there is as little water as possible between you and the subject.
- Try to shoot against a contrasting background.
- Experiment with shutter speeds. My gut feeling is that faster is better but you might come up with something more interesting with a slower speed.

Marty


User currently offlineCaptainKramer From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2012, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5924 times:

I found if I have turned up at the airport and the weather has turned sour, I have taken some shots anyway and turned them into Black & White shots, with the right sort of photo editing technique's you can get something out of a bad situation.

Also one day when it turned overcast and it started raining lightly at the airport while taking shots, instead of leaving I set myself the challenge of trying to get a shot of an aircarft's nose section with the wind screen wiper working, and after a few goes I managed to get a useable shot, not Anet material, but still something different to what I had got that day in the sun.


User currently offlineCcrlR From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5917 times:
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Quoting vikkyvik (Reply 2):
Make sure your gear is either weather-sealed or well-protected.

If you don't know what to get you can get a rainsleeve and put it over your camera and lens. I've tried it before when I was at an airshow and it worked. I would suggest one and try it out. There are different sizes depending on lens size.



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User currently offlinegocaps16 From Japan, joined Jan 2000, 4338 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5835 times:

Quoting NZ107 (Reply 1):
Wait for it to stop

Actually, sometimes when it rains and if you have mixed with sunlight, you can get some AMAZING shots. But I know that in Japan, that never happens. When it rains, it's all overcast and gray. 'Nuff said.


User currently offlineNZ107 From New Zealand, joined Jul 2005, 6407 posts, RR: 38
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 5831 times:

Quoting gocaps16 (Reply 10):

Sometimes, yes.. But even then, chances are picture quality will turn out better when that sunlight pokes through with heavy rainclouds around but no actual rain falling. I don't think I've shot in either situation though..



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 2 hours ago) and read 5777 times:

Quoting scbriml (Reply 3):
This is true for your local airport. It's another matter when you've flown halfway round the World and the only choice is grotty shots or no shots.

Well for me, trips to NRT are on a need-to basis.

I am hoping I could catch something like this:


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User currently offlinejid From Barbados, joined Dec 2004, 972 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 1 hour ago) and read 5767 times:

Shooting in the rain is possible of course, you best have a big umbrella and some way of holding or anchoring it. The same basic rules apply as they would for any other shot. Processing - rain 'dilutes' contrast so you do have to watch that. Personally I never plan to go out in the rain but have been caught in the odd shower as you go around Manchester. You should be able to get something along these lines:


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Then wait for the sun to come out and get the spray shots 

Good luck .. Jid



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User currently offlinewalter2222 From Belgium, joined Sep 2005, 1293 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5713 times:

Quoting jid (Reply 13):
Shooting in the rain is possible of course, you best have a big umbrella and some way of holding or anchoring it.

I did not plan to shoot in the rain (and hence had no umbrella with me...) at this occasion, and although I got soakingly wet, I still enjoyed it. I found the editing part the most diificult...


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User currently offlinecargolex From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1259 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5659 times:

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 7):
- Try to shoot close up so there is as little water as possible between you and the subject.
- Try to shoot against a contrasting background.

Extremely useful advice. The more rain there is, the more difficult it's going to be to get a sharp, noise-free shot. The rain is literally noise in your shot, honestly. There's always some atmosphere between you and the aircraft unless you're right up on it with a fisheye lens - this is why humid days and hot days are going to produce more haze and/or grain. Rain is just one more manifestation of this - only it's solid atmosphere, not just water vapor/humidity in the air or heat reflecting through the air off of a surface.

Without a contrasting background, on a cloudy or rainy day, it's going to be hard to get the whites correct, because most aircraft are white, and the upper sections will just blend in with the sky.

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 7):
- Experiment with shutter speeds. My gut feeling is that faster is better but you might come up with something more interesting with a slower speed.

You're going to have to compensate in rainy/cloudy conditions for the low light, and as in all low light photography, that means one of three things or maybe a combination of them - slower shutter speeds, wider aperture, or higher ISO. Higher ISO is going to mean more noise and grain, but if you expose it just right, you can usually overcome that. Better to try to see what happens at ISO 100 first, with wider apertures and slower speeds so you can get an idea of what you need to do relative to a sunny day. For really slow shutter speeds, you'll probably need a monopod if you don't have IS on your lens, and even then, sometimes a monopod is more effective.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 12):
I am hoping I could catch something like this:

That's going to be difficult, because that is more than just "shooting in rain." The conditions have to be right for those trails and that moisture over the wings to materialize. The last time I saw that effect, it was on a sunny day when fog had just lifted.

Part of what makes these shots difficult - and dramatic when they happen - is that the conditions are not in your control.

That's also pretty advanced stuff - to capture and upload a photo like that and have it accepted. It's probably much more advisable to get comfortable with sunny days first, then expand your experiments into foul weather. After almost three years of uploading photos from a city known for rain (it actually doesn't rain as much as people think - but it is often gray), I only have a handful of photos taken in actual rain in the DB.


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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9783 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5652 times:
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For me, I hate leaving the airport with zero photos, so I'll usually shoot anyway, even if the conditions suck. You never know, something interesting may show up, or you may get some cool weather effects.

Example:

Very gray evening, but some beautiful vortices:


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Even better - another gray evening, but the sun poked out of the clouds at just the right time:


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Quoting scbriml (Reply 3):

This is true for your local airport. It's another matter when you've flown halfway round the World and the only choice is grotty shots or no shots.

I wish I had that problem.   

Quoting cargolex (Reply 15):
Higher ISO is going to mean more noise and grain, but if you expose it just right, you can usually overcome that.


True, although the low contrast that you usually get on cloudy/rainy days will exacerbate noise.



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User currently offlineyapple From Singapore, joined Apr 2011, 91 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 5614 times:

Quoting walter2222 (Reply 14):
I found the editing part the most diificult...

I agree, had a hard time editing this photo taken in heavy rain (but i was in a sheltered place) as compared to the usual sunny shots, but glad it was accepted on the first attempt. Rare subject, and great weather...


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