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Help With Canon 60D Settings  
User currently offlinetheweatherman From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 11 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6690 times:

Hello,

I am brand new to the world of aviation photography. I have recently purchased a Canon 60D and went to IAH to do some shooting. I was very disappointed with thw results so I deleted them all. What settings are current 60D users using to get the best photo?

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User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6696 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6684 times:

Some will use Manual, some will use Av with the aperture at f8. Depending on the light the ISO will be pushed up to get a suitable shutter speed. The shutter speed, ideally, should be faster than the inverse of the focal length of the lens. Note the 60D is a APS-C camera with a 1.6 crop factor so the focal length at the sensor is 1.6x what the lens focal length is. 200mm => 320mm, etc. and a shutter speed of 1/250s or 1/500s at this focal length

Pity you trashed the photos, you should have kept them to do a CSI on them to see where you went wrong.

What lens were you using? What was the weather like? What time of day was it?

To start off, really, you're going to want a sunny day with the sun behind you, not midday and, perhaps, the plane not moving so you don't have to worry about following a plane or getting confusing exposure meter readings from the sky. Overcast days tend to give flat contrast and drab photos.

Set the focus point to the centre and use spot metering so you're getting the exposure from the aircraft itself.

Also, read the manual and get a photography book to learn the basics about aperture, shutter speed, ISO, exposure compensation, etc.



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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9901 posts, RR: 26
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6665 times:
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Quoting oly720man (Reply 1):
Pity you trashed the photos, you should have kept them to do a CSI on them to see where you went wrong.

  

My suggestion is to go out and shoot again, and post a few photos. That will enable us to get an idea of why you were disappointed with the results, and offer some pointers should they be necessary.



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User currently offlinedrewbelmore From India, joined Apr 2013, 8 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6272 times:

Nice information to started my journey. Thanks both  

User currently offlinetheweatherman From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5812 times:

Thanks guys. I finally made it back out to the airport today. I think the pictures I got this time were better than last time, but I'm still not really happy with them. I'll post the .jpeg version on here. I have the .raw files as well to make any changes you guys recommend.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonty...tography/8707617563/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonty...tography/8708740202/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonty...tography/8708741160/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonty...tography/8708740918/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonty...tography/8708740416/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jasonty...tography/8708740662/in/photostream


User currently offlineG-CIVP From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1321 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5768 times:

Three observations.

i) why did you strip the exif data from the images on flickr? If you want constructive feedback, this vital information would have helped!

ii) You've chopped the stabiliser off the Air France B777. Similarly, part of the tail of the LH A380 has been lost. This suggests you haven't fully mastered your equipment as yet.

iii) The main reason why the photos look slightly odd is probably due to the high sun. Conversely the LH A380 touching down (excellent photo though) is under-exposed or not edited correctly.

No doubt others will provide you with more advice. Best way to improve is to go out and keep on taking photos.

[Edited 2013-05-05 00:58:32]

User currently offlinetheweatherman From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5753 times:

Thanks for the input. I can fix the croping issues. I still have the RAW files. I thought that the main part the screeners wanted to see was the fuselage. Also, I didn't realize the exif data was striped on flickr. I've changed the setting to where you can see it now.

User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2901 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5745 times:

I think your main problem, as mentioned above, is the lighting. Most taken in very harsh lighting and are underexposed. I think a better understanding of exposure and the exposure triangle will help you get more from your camera and the reasons why these photos didn't turn out as you may have expected. What mode are you using on your 60D? Fully automatic, aperture priority, shutter priority, manual?

Darren



Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
User currently offlinetheweatherman From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5735 times:

Darren,

I don't have much of a choice but to shoot around 1 pm in Houston to catch the heavies coming in   I was shooting in aperture priority mode yesterday. I had it set at ISO 200 and kept the aperture between 8 and 10.

[Edited 2013-05-05 06:52:57]

User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2901 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5730 times:

Did you have any exposure compensation dialled in? All are underexposed, a couple by a large amount. Metering on Canon DSLR's is normally pretty good and if anything, in bright sunlight, tends to overexpose slightly rather than underexpose. What metering are you using? Spot or evaluative? If you're using spot, that may account for the underexposure. I suggest using evaluative. If you don't have any options but to shoot at 1pm, then so be it but the lighting isn't great when the sun is that high.

Darren



Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
User currently offlinetheweatherman From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5698 times:

Darren,

I didn't have any exposure compensation dialed in. I had it on Av mode, ISO 200, and had the aperture set at between f8 and f10. That was giving me about 1/600 shutter speeds and faster, so I thought they would come out exposed correctly.

I also had it set on spot metering. I'll definitely switch it over to evaluative next time.


User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2901 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5682 times:

Quoting theweatherman (Reply 10):
I also had it set to spot metering

Thats the cause of the underexpore then. Use evaluative and be aware when its bright, you may need to dial in -1/3 exposure compensation. You should see a big difference in your photos then.

Darren



Equipment: 2x Canon EOS 50D; Sigma 10-20 EX DC HSM, 50-500 EX APO DG, Canon 24-105 f/4 L, Speedlite 430EX
User currently offlinetheweatherman From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5666 times:

Thank you so much for the feedback. I'll definitely make those changes next time out.

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