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User currently offlineaerovtp From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 33 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8050 times:

A.Net,

If you read my previous posts, you will know that I am taking a trip this summer and connecting at EWR and FRA. I was wondering where (What terminal, concourse, ect.) I should go to get good pictures of planes and the runway at EWR. I was also looking for an updated list of every airline that flies into EWR and every destination and aircraft that is sent. I have looked at some sites like wikipedia (of course) but with the recent additions like Icelandair, Virgin America and other UA destinations being added, I was wondering if there was a database that was accurate and up to date. I want to know all this information so I can figure out where to go to get the best pictures and spotting opportunities. Thanks to all the people who answer all my questions in advance!  

Thanks,
Aerovtp


Aerovtp
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User currently offlinesouthwest9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8042 times:

In terms of looking ahead at the flights that are passing through EWR, try this, hopefully this helps...

http://flightaware.com/live/airport/KEWR


User currently offlineaerovtp From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 7984 times:

Thanks a lot, I cant believe I didn't even look at FlightAware!!


Aerovtp
User currently offlineoly720man From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 6674 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7938 times:

And there is the EWR website

http://www.panynj.gov/airports/newark-liberty.html



wheat and dairy can screw up your brain
User currently offlineaerovtp From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7886 times:

Thanks,
The problem with the website is that it doesn't list everything in one snapshot



Aerovtp
User currently offlineaerovtp From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7773 times:

Does anyone have a list of all the departures and arrivals on June 5, 2013 or has a method of finding departures and arrivals on a Wendsday?

Thanks,
Aerovtp



Aerovtp
User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1655 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 7737 times:

Take a look at FlightAware for a few days and jot down flights that look interesting to you - not sure what you're after, but the list of really interesting stuff shouldn't be that long. Then, go to the individual airline web sites and look up their schedules for your date. It's far from scientific but will help you plan your trip.

EDIT: With regard to the second part of your question, you can scroll back in FlightAware to the previous Wednesday to see flights. You have a few weeks before your trip, so if you do that for a few weeks in a row you'll have a good idea of the regular traffic for that day.

[Edited 2013-04-27 06:30:01]

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6293 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (1 year 2 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7686 times:

Quoting aerovtp (Thread starter):
was wondering where (What terminal, concourse, ect.)

If you're flying UA, then you are in luck. Go down to I think its gate 85--88 or so. Great view of taxiway and runway.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineaerovtp From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7612 times:

Thanks for the suggestions. I decided to go onto Kayak and "book flights" from different airlines and their destinations. I was able to find the arrivals and departures for all the major airlines on the date. I will post it here for the benefit of others once I am finished.

Aerovtp



Aerovtp
User currently offlineVTORD From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 7575 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 7):
If you're flying UA, then you are in luck. Go down to I think its gate 85--88 or so. Great view of taxiway and runway.

Thanks! I am flying coming Tuesday via EWR. Have a 3 hour layover.....Will try to see what I can get



Get your facts first. Then you may distort them as you like.
User currently offlineaerovtp From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 7574 times:

Arrival Departure
Air India 7:55 16:25
British Airways 13:20 18:25
El Al 5:45 13:30
Jet Airways 12:30 18:30
Lufthansa (DUS) 14:35 --
Lufthansa (FRA) 15:55 18:05
Singapore 17:50 --
TAP Portugal 3:25 17:55
SAS (Oslo) 13:10 --
SAS (Sweden) 12:55 17:20

This list is for a Wednesday June 5 and is specialized for my connection times so I have left blanks. There is an another SAS flight to Copenhagan you should check KAYAK. I will update it a little later. Enjoy!!

For the person who is going to go to EWR, can you post a Trip report of pictures! Link it on this thread please too!



Aerovtp
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6293 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7551 times:

Just rechecked, it is gates 87 & 88

http://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/airport/maps/ewr.aspx



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineaerovtp From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 7542 times:

Thanks to everyone who has given information so far especially 727LOVER,

To keep the ball rolling in this thread (My 8 hours at EWR are going to be amazing because of this thread) does anyone know if the active runways change based on the wind conditions and if that changes where you should go to do spotting. I want to be able to predict where to go the night before flying because I will know the wind direction by then.

Thanks a lot guys and keep it coming,

Aerovtp



Aerovtp
User currently offlinesouthwest9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7539 times:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but... if it's blowing from the north:

4L is used for takeoffs and 4R is used for landings

If the winds shift to the opposite direction (south,southwest,southeast I don't know it's whatever),

22R is used for takeoffs and 22L is used for landings.

In terms of where to go, you could drive up and down Route 95... just kidding ALTHOUGH it's fun to try to race to planes I suggest you try it, anyways, uhhhh.... 727LOVER, got anything? If this was Boston I could help you.


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6293 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7532 times:

Quoting southwest9 (Reply 13):
uhhhh.... 727LOVER, got anything?

Oh I am no EWR expert by any means. I haven't even been there since 2006. But perimeter wise, EWR is very hard. If you are at the gate 87-88 spot, you'll be able to watch all ops on the 4s/22s no matter the wind direction.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlinesouthwest9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 7527 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 14):
But perimeter wise, EWR is very hard.

Very true, very true. If you look on Google Maps around EWR, you'll notice that on all four sides there is virtually NO WHERE to stand and photograph nice heavies taking off into the sunset. In all seriousness, Route 95 is literally your best bet, I got a few nice shots of a Jetblue A320 landing parallel to my Honda.
Get someone to drive you though because you'll soon find yourself experiencing a highway incursion if you don't look at the road ahead.


User currently offlinemegatop412 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7519 times:

Quoting aerovtp (Reply 12):
does anyone know if the active runways change based on the wind conditions and if that changes where you should go to do spotting. I want to be able to predict where to go the night before flying because I will know the wind direction by then.

I was there on Friday to catch the United Retro jet departing. As soon as I got set up in my spot, thinking there was no reason for them to switch, they switched. Two minutes of silence was the only clue before I was looking at landing lights. And of course, I missed the United. But not without cursing up a storm.

So, apparently, wind direction isn't the only factor, because there was no change in the wind, as shown by the flag I was observing.

Good luck


User currently offlineaerovtp From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 7509 times:

Ok thanks

I think at this point I need to just go there and play it by ear and then post how it went. I will be creating a trip report on Youtube.



Aerovtp
User currently offlinemoose135 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2291 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7497 times:

Quoting southwest9 (Reply 15):
If you look on Google Maps around EWR, you'll notice that on all four sides there is virtually NO WHERE to stand and photograph nice heavies taking off into the sunset.

There are some spots off airport where you could shoot from, but local law enforcement is VERY aggressive about moving you out if you have a camera. For all the shooting I've done around NYC, I've never bothered with EWR.



KC-135 - Passing gas and taking names!
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6293 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 7432 times:

Another thing one could do is to ride the train for a little while. EWR & DFW have similiar trains. The difference is @ EWR, one is not beyond security



examples:


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Photo © Jerome Mervelet
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Photo © Francois-Xavier Simon



[Edited 2013-05-04 17:58:20]


Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6293 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 7428 times:

Another area that I used to hang out at years ago was theNorth parkinglot for 22L arrivals. You can see it here:
http://www.panynj.gov/airports/ewr-parking.cfm

I haven;t been herein ages. You would probably only last in there for 15-30 minutes, so time it with something you REEEEEEEAAAALLLLY want.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineaerovtp From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 2 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 7403 times:

A.Net,

With airlines leaving EWR like Alitalia and Singapore, does anyone know about any airlines that are going to come in to EWR. I'm kind of sad that all of EWR's traffic is going to JFK. I don't want EWR to become just a UA airport. UAis also focusing on IAH, ORD, and SFO and I feel that everyone is just pushing EWR down. Thoughts Anyone??

Thanks,
Aerovtp



Aerovtp
User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1655 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7380 times:

The north parking is a good spot for overhead shots as pointed out by 727Lover, and I spent a nice afternoon there a few years ago. I kept a low profile, only exiting my car when something I wanted to photograph was in range. Even better, if you could find a place to sit in your car and take pictures, you'd probably be in great shape. Be aware that when I was there the daily rate for the lot was $15, and I was a bit dismayed when I exited after about 90 minutes that the rate was not pro-rated. I guess $15 for 90 minutes of entertainment isn't that bad, and one of my shots taken that day is among my top 5 most popular shots on A.net. Well worth the money.

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6293 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 7376 times:

Quoting JohnJ (Reply 22):
and one of my shots taken that day is among my top 5 most popular shots on A.net. Well worth the money.

Please, show us so we may see the angle.



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineaerovtp From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 7327 times:

Anyone have any good videos on youtube that show the view from the train.


Aerovtp
25 aerovtp : Does anyone know if there are any new airlines coming into EWR??
26 southwest9 : YES!!! Icelandair will be having flights to Reykjavík-Keflavík, begins October 28, 2013 out of terminal B. Here are all of the airlines, along with
27 aerovtp : Thanks a lot Southwest9. I knew about Icelandair but I was hoping there would be something before my trip. Oh well, Aerovtp
28 VTORD : So sorry mate....between my arriving flight, 2 gate changes, locating my sister (who was joining me onwards) and disorganized boarding for internatio
29 aerovtp : Thats awesome VTORD!! You got to use my excel sheet!! The 757 BA is Openskies and goes to Paris Orly. The other two 772s are both London bound. Only a
30 jpmagero : I just spent a combined 9 hours at EWR inside the terminal during two recent stopovers and found some good spots to get shots from. I'm still going th
31 aerovtp : Thanks jpmagero. Will be interesting to actually see some pictures from these good spots. Thanks, Aerovtp
32 Post contains links jpmagero : For reference, here are some of the most recently added, I still have a stack more to edit and add. On my return, it was raining the whole afternoon s
33 aerovtp : Awesome jpmagero I am going to Newark and Frankfurt on Wendsday and I hope to get a couple pictures up by next week. Thanks, Aerovtp
34 aerovtp : I finished the trip and let me put it this way, Newark is a pretty annoying place to do plane spotting. To move from one concourse to another, you nee
35 Post contains images southwest9 : Sorry that Newark didn't really work out, not surprised about security, but it sounds like your best bet was to attach a camera to a bird and have it
36 Post contains images aerovtp : Here is a link to a Google Drive Folder with my pictures. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B-1IrbVpOTtgRmtKbnE3ZTl3Wjg&usp=sharing I will b
37 Post contains links aerovtp : Here is a video of the takeoff from Newark! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-35fWeodB0 Enjoy, AeroVTP
38 Post contains links and images jpmagero : Here's a shot I got inside the terminal near gate C114, got some others near C99 as well, yet to be put in the queue. View Large View MediumPhoto © J
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