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User currently offlineptpolanski From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 4 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5316 times:

Hello!!

Im new on here and this is my first post on here! I was wondering to see if anyone else is active on here in the Chicago area and has taken any photos at O'Hare airport because I have a fast question.

The question is as following:

Which runway on O'hare is most used for bigger planes such as the: Boeing 747 or the Airbus A340.

Today I took some photos by the 10/28 and 14R/32L runway and got to take a picture of the Lufthansa Cargo
McDonnell Douglas MD-11F


I also got an opportunity to take a picture on runway 22R/4L of Swiss International Air Lines Airbus A330-343X, and Qatar Airways Boeing 777-3DZ/ER.

So I was wondering if it depends if the bigger planes land on specific runways or is it all random and have to time it right.

I also downloaded a application on my phone that tells me what time the planes land but does not tell me what runway  

Is there perhaps a application or website that tells you what runway the arriving plane will land?


Thank you and sorry if these questions sound a bit silly, but once again I am new on here and will post some of the photos once they pass the upload queue.


Peter

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User currently offlinegabik001 From Poland, joined Jun 2005, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5305 times:

Today's pattern is the worst pattern of all patterns at ORD. You can't calculate where the biggest a/c's gonna land. They were using 22R (for some heavies too) , 14R and 10 for arrivals. Worst thing is if you are expecting something at 22R and got radio there is not much time to get to rwy 10 if anything interesting is approaching there. I 'm living at 22R approach glidepath and was expecting LOT's A332 but she landed on 14R...
When I'm at ORD somewhere I'm using flightradar24 app and looking for the path of approaching a/c. Best way is to listen carefully ATC for a specific flight# (there is 4 frequencies so I'm using a scanner to listen all frequencies at a time). Also you can get liveATC app for your phone to listen approach. But you have to be on the move to get specific runway. So best pattern is 28/27L/27R because there is less than 6 minutes way between exterior runways (28-27R) for approach.
There is no website that will tell you where specific a/c is gonna land . This decision is made by Chicago Approach at first contact with aircraft (usually 10-15 minutes before landing). Sometimes crew is waiting for runway assigment (it happened friday with LOT1 - they had one hold over lake Michigan while waiting for specific approach).
So to get perfect guess I needed years of observation , listening and guessing. Now I can tell in 80% depends on pattern.
You never know...



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User currently offlinepowwwiii From United States of America, joined May 2011, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5282 times:
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On Sat., they use this pattern too, arrivals on 10, 14R and 22R, departures on 22L, 14L

User currently offlinecarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2952 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5198 times:

For easterly arrivals, they use Rwy 10, 4R & 9R. Most of the time the foreign heavies do use Rwy 10.
But again, they may assign it a different runway, it just happens because of flow, timing and ATC controller on duty, etc.


User currently offlineptpolanski From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 4 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5165 times:

What would be a good scanner that I can get to hear what planes are coming in? I got the flightradar24 application it's really great! Thank you ! 

User currently offlinegabik001 From Poland, joined Jun 2005, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5160 times:

It can be any scanner that can cover airband. You can find some on ebay. Eg. AR-108 is the basic and good equipment.
I got Radioshack Pro95 (old but got good coverage) and I'm not using it only to hear ATC...



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User currently offlineptpolanski From United States of America, joined Apr 2013, 4 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5156 times:

gabik001, thank you for your help! I sent you an email and I dont know if you got it, or if it went to your spam box or something but basically just thanked you in it and for the advice, I downloaded the flightradar24 application and love it ill look into getting a scanner soon, I also sent the email in Polish since Im from Poland too   nice seeing a fellow Polak interested in the same hobby!

User currently offlinedeltaA330 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5152 times:

O'Hare is by far one of the hardest airports to spot at. As previously mentioned the best is when the winds favor 28/27L/27R for landings because getting between them is easier. Most heavy jets land on runway 28 with the occasional European heavy landing on runway 27L.

When the winds are out of the north, landings will be on 10 and 4R (sometime 9R is also used). In this case, nearly every heavy uses 10 to land.

East winds favor 10/9R/9L, with most heavies using 10 and 9R (this is pretty rare).

And now for the favorite pattern- winds out of the south. This means runways 10, 14R, and 22R will be active for landings with planes departing 22L, 14L from U2, and occasionally a heavy departing 10/28. Most cargo heavies will either use 10 or 14R depending on the cargo ramp they park at. Asian heavies use 14R and 10, but mainly 14R. European heavies nearly always use 22R, but there are always exceptions.

Hope this helps. Know that when you go to ORD, you will NEVER get every single thing you want. there are simply too many runways.


User currently offlinegabik001 From Poland, joined Jun 2005, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5130 times:

Quoting ptpolanski (Reply 6):
gabik001, thank you for your help! I sent you an email and I dont know if you got it, or if it went to your spam box or something but basically just thanked you in it and for the advice, I downloaded the flightradar24 application and love it ill look into getting a scanner soon, I also sent the email in Polish since Im from Poland too nice seeing a fellow Polak interested in the same hobby!

Send it again to : widyna at att.net . I did not get it , even in the spam.

BTW I got flightradar24 feeding box in my home. Basicly covering ORD ground traffic and some east of airfield.
Also I'm not only one here that speaks polish. Bart , Wojtek , Peter and Marcin they speaks polish too.



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5077 times:

Quoting ptpolanski (Reply 6):
gabik001, thank you for your help! I sent you an email and I dont know if you got it, or if it went to your spam box or something but basically just thanked you in it and for the advice
Quoting gabik001 (Reply 8):
Send it again to : widyna at att.net . I did not get it , even in the spam.

Yeah, your email is funny.    I emailed you twice before I visited ORD in 2007 with no response. I visited twice in 2008, January & February. I love hanging out @ USG building, but man, it can get cold for this Florida boy.

I love O'Hare!

Can't wait to get back. Need to before all the runways change.  



Listen Betty, don't start up with your 'White Zone' s*** again.
User currently offlineCcrlR From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5061 times:
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FYI, there has been some changes to the South Runway 10-28. It is now 10L-28R. This is due to the Second of three runways for the south section of the airfield to be open soon. 10C-28C will be the next runway to open this fall I think.


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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5052 times:

Quoting CcrlR (Reply 10):
FYI, there has been some changes to the South Runway 10-28. It is now 10L-28R. This is due to the Second of three runways for the south section of the airfield to be open soon. 10C-28C will be the next runway to open this fall I think.

Can we see aerials of the construction? I am assuming that entire area that was south of 10-28 is gone?



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User currently offlinegabik001 From Poland, joined Jun 2005, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5052 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 9):
Yeah, your email is funny. I emailed you twice before I visited ORD in 2007 with no response. I visited twice in 2008, January & February. I love hanging out @ USG building, but man, it can get cold for this Florida boy.

Heh , well I had a problem with previous email address (they banned me due to sending spam which I didn't) so this is diferrent since a few years. I change in airliners database last year so maybe that's why.
Sometimes messages goes to spam folder which I occassionaly visitng looking for something that shouldn't be there , maybe I missed it.
Anyway they changed rwy numbers at midnight because yesterday at 10pm it was still rwy10. And LOT 787 will not fly to Ethiopia on saturday due to engines problem. I saw them open yesterday , today found info on facebook.
Also yesterday LOT2 A332 touch with wingtip GEC8230 MD11 on taxiway U on their way to rwy 14L. Both aircrafts did not took off . After closer look LOT's A332 departed 4 hours later , but Lufthansa cargo did not departed. Incident had a place at 5.50pm.



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User currently offlineCcrlR From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 2234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5019 times:
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Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 11):
Can we see aerials of the construction? I am assuming that entire area that was south of 10-28 is gone?

no aerial photos, just info from FAA charts and the location in general. The cargo areas have been moved and Southeast Cargo(used to be Southwest Cargo) is still there. Now there are three cargo areas on the south side of the airfield.



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User currently offlinegabik001 From Poland, joined Jun 2005, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5014 times:

You can go to south cargo to the end of N Access Rd and take a look on rwy 10L and new runway under construction. If you get luck you can get some good pictures. There is an area that fence lowering and there is a clear view of the airport.


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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4992 times:

Hi There guys

I am over in ORD from May 31st to June 3rd. I was wondering what you consider the best spot in ORD for early morning and evening, as I wont make it to the Airport during the day ...

Thx for any help.

Robin



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User currently offlinegabik001 From Poland, joined Jun 2005, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4983 times:

Quoting Rotate (Reply 15):
Hi There guys

I am over in ORD from May 31st to June 3rd. I was wondering what you consider the best spot in ORD for early morning and evening, as I wont make it to the Airport during the day ...

Thx for any help.

Robin

Depends on pattern you can get diferrent locations. Best way is if you have a car. On east arrivals I can recommend rwy 28R spot (at the end of Scott St in Schiller Park - old USG parking lot). A lot of enthusiasts are there during saturdays and sundays sunny days. During north arrival (used 14R , 22R runways) at the morning you can stay somewhere near Allstate Arena (22R spot).
On 10L you can go on Beeline Rd in Bensenville and try to set the proper position to get good lighting.



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User currently offlineVTORD From United States of America, joined Dec 2012, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4971 times:

Robin, depending upon where you stay, I usually drive around the 10L location ’cos that kind of tells me what the pattern is and where to go. Then just follow gabik’s pointers.


Get your facts first. Then you may distort them as you like.
User currently offlinedeltaA330 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4968 times:

Just as the others have said, if they're landing on 27L/27R/28R, it's easy just go to USG and enjoy. If the winds favor 14R/22R/10L, know that it will be nearly impossible to see everything. Asian heavies will use 10L/14R, european stuff mainly uses 22R but also 10L and 14R sometimes. 10L/9R/4R, which as of right now is the pattern, 10L gets almost every heavy jet. If you need locations, feel free to email me and i can give you some detailed descriptions.

User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4965 times:

Morning 4R landings/22L takeoffs.....I used to go down Manheim rd, turn west on Seymoure until it deadends. But looking @ a google map, it looks like this road now connects p with Irving Park Rd. so I don't know if one can hang down there.  

Afternoon 4R landings.....is that circular area by the post ffice still good?



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User currently offlinegabik001 From Poland, joined Jun 2005, 206 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4950 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 19):
Morning 4R landings/22L takeoffs.....I used to go down Manheim rd, turn west on Seymoure until it deadends. But looking @ a google map, it looks like this road now connects p with Irving Park Rd. so I don't know if one can hang down there.

Afternoon 4R landings.....is that circular area by the post ffice still good?

Since three or four years this road connects with Irving park rd. I'm using acces road to place named Menzies (cargo companies office building). Staying at curb but no long at the morning to get 4R arrivals or 22L departures. Also during weekend I'm using Menzies parking lot for departures from 22L.
Afternoon post office area work great 'till sunset.



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User currently offlineRotate From Switzerland, joined Feb 2003, 1491 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4924 times:

I will have a car ... so thx very much for all these suggestions, I will have a try on these.

Rgds

Robin



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4893 times:

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Any particular place along York Rd to sit?



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User currently offlinesovietjet From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2003, 2594 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4871 times:
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Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 22):

The first four is the spot described in reply 14 earlier in this thread.

The British 772 I'm not entirely sure but looks like one of the parking lots west of Mannheim Rd south of Lawrence.

The two Cargolux 747s is on York Rd in one of the parking lots south of Devon.

The American Eagle ERJ, Lufthansa 747 and AA MD-80 were all taken airside next to the runway as part of a tour we did last August.

The AA 777-200 is taken on Eagle Dr. west of York Rd and south of Beeline Rd right by ALM Medical.

The British 777-300, probably taken airside from the terminal while waiting for a flight.


User currently offlinecsturdiv From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1457 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4867 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 22):
Any particular place along York Rd to sit?

Saturday I was out there, off of York Road. I forget the side road, but it was the one that has a Firestone Tire Truck Center on the corner. It is maybe 1/4 to 1/2 mile from Irving Park Road. I went back in the industrial complex there and found a good spot about 50 yards or so off of the 10 approach. I do not have the best camera, but I took some pics. I am still learning how to set my camera for the best images, so I'll be out there again for more practice next weekend.



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 25, posted (1 year 3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4863 times:

Quoting sovietjet (Reply 23):

The first four is the spot described in reply 14 earlier in this thread.

The British 772 I'm not entirely sure but looks like one of the parking lots west of Mannheim Rd south of Lawrence.

The two Cargolux 747s is on York Rd in one of the parking lots south of Devon.

The American Eagle ERJ, Lufthansa 747 and AA MD-80 were all taken airside next to the runway as part of a tour we did last August.

The AA 777-200 is taken on Eagle Dr. west of York Rd and south of Beeline Rd right by ALM Medical.

The British 777-300, probably taken airside from the terminal while waiting for a flight.

Thank you very much.......I will see if I can get up there before the next runway opens.



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