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Some Constructive Criticism Please  
User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4657 posts, RR: 25
Posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Hello all, I'm still new to photography but I am learning. I would like some constructive criticism of some of my pics before I even think about attempting an upload. Now I use a Pentax SLR camera, usually with ISO 100 film. My friend Bo Kim scanned these for me and I've "attempted" to edit them with Photoshop 6.

Here they are, and thank you.






Kris from YYC

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User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4164 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Hi !
Nr 1.) The plane is not centered. theres more space on the right side then on the left side. Maybe cropping would help. And the horizon thing. Check the poles of the lamps. Theres a little bit clockwise rotation needed.
Nr. 2.) Seems to be oversharpened to me. Just look at the cockpit windows and the titles. I dont know what it was may be you tried to make a out of focus shot more sharp?
Nr. 3.)
Same as Nr. 1 except the horizon which seems to be fine. But theres something to the left of the westjet tail. Directly above the northwest logo in the background which seems like a scratch or something. Is it a scanned print? Try to get rid of the scratch.
Nr. 4.) mmh dont know exactly. I think it would have looked better if you moved the camera with the approaching plane rather than the way you did it. But thats just personal. No offense!!!!!
Just my €-cent

User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 813 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2181 times:

Hard to say much about the quality of the originals as I think you've been pretty heavy handed in Photoshop - contrast is way excessive, and colour balance is off. Did you use the auto-levels/auto-contrast fetures? Unless the scan is perfectly balanced, these features tend to do more harm than good, resulting in excessive contrast. Try using the manual levels & curves to make SMALL adjustments - if you find you are having to make major adjustments to get a reasonable picture, then the original scan is probably poor and should be redone.

Sharpening could be much better - I suspect you weren't using the preferred unsharpmask option.

Colours are a bit off - too much blue in my judgement. This can easily be correct, but only if you have your monitor calibrated first!



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlineAtco From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 277 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 2144 times:


I would say that firstly the AC A340 is a nice photo, but the scan has left it very blurry in parts (The tail logo has no discernible detail for example, the reg, the star alliance logo), yet other bits are over sharp (Cockpit windows for example).
There also appears to be a red line running through the shot, just at the base of the nosewheel doors and running along the wing leading edge.

The American MD80 is too blurry, and I doubt it can be saved enough to make it here. The AC767 looks pretty pin sharp, so I would guess that perhaps you didn't pan with the MD80, but simply held the camera still (forgive me if I'm wrong), from my experience you must always pan with a moving subject. Shame because its again a nice composition.

Colin has also given some great advice regarding photoshop, as I am learning - it is one thing using it, but another using it well.



Canon through and through
User currently offlineBO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2771 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Sorry for late reply Kris.
Was a little busy most of today.
I remember those scans.. ahh yes!
First things first man.
Do the best you can to eliminate the little stuff.
Things like the Plane being Centered/properly cropped/not tilted/ and removal of scratches and dusts.
If these things are done and fixed, it willl prevent the screeners from adding comments to the pictures as well decrease your rejection level.
It'll be good for Screeners and you.
The shots are wonderful like the C3 and Westjet examples you showed me.
UNfortuneatly some blurryness for 2 of ur picts may probably be kicked back.

The Issue with color/lightness/contrast is a little bit of a tougher issue.
What I do is use the adjust Curve function in ---->Image/Adjust- basically where the bightness/contrast()color adjustments are and etc.

Sharpening: Remember not to use Sharpen edges or just Sharpen.
ALWAYS use Unsharp mask. Its a little queer to use at first but u'll quickly learn it. YOu may also want to sharpen more of certain portions of the plane. say the nose/registration/airline titles, ya know the details..
Just drag a box around those areas you want to go for and POOF! It will be done.

Remember, upload your ultra super best shots..
I sometimes upload okay shots which I get cocky and think the pict might make it and I end up wasting my time and getting rejections. I fixed all that now as I upload like 5 now. Pfffff!

Hopefully this will help Kris..
Greetings from YYC fellow spotter..


Oh ya, why not consider that double Fed Ex A310 picture?

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User currently offlineFallingeese From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2097 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 2041 times:

Hey where did you take some of those from? Some of those photos look great.

Mark McWhirter...Contrails Photography
User currently offlineVonRichtofen From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 4657 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2022 times:

Thanks for the help guys!! I'm still just beginning to play with Photoshop, so I guess it just takes practice.

Bo- Thanks for the detailed advice!! The double Fed Ex shot is a good one, but I need to get it scanned  Wink/being sarcastic

Fallingeese- Thanks for the kind words, most of those shots were taken at Rwy 16. There's this gravel road that you could take to get a good view but since Sept. 11th they've closed it  Sad


User currently offlineBO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2771 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (14 years 4 months 1 week ago) and read 2010 times:


Same stuff btu different perspective!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Too bad it was rejected for Low Quality but oh well.


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