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User currently offlineGunnarInLA From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

First post here (I think) – Most airplanes are not difficult to identify, you see the number and that's all you need...

But if you take a picture of a plane from below, you may not see that number...if it's a "good airline" you'll find a number on one of the wings – problem solved...

But not all airlines place numbers on the underside of the wings, at least not on all planes....

So I found myself with a picture of a Delta 737 and the only number visible from below is "608" on the nose wheel house doors...but what does it stand for...?
I checked with planespotters...but nothing really made sense...I found "608" as part of a fleet number, but the corresponding registration number identified an aircraft that wasn't in Southern California at the time....(where I took the picture)

...so what does the number on the nose wheel house doors stand for, as far as Delta is concerned...? – Most other airlines mark the identifying portion of a registration number on those doors, but not all...anyone have a clue about this....?

...very grateful for any illumination...
gunnar

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User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9943 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2882 times:
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You sure it wasn't a 757?


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Hint: use the Photo Search, and select Delta Air Lines, and type 608 into the keyword field. That's often how I search for regs.



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User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

If you go to this thread and go down a few posts there is a list of the ship number ranges for all of the types (although later on someone explained that the 737s got re-numbered to the 36xx range)

Delta "N"Number Versus Ship Number Question (by aa777lvr Oct 10 2010 in Civil Aviation)

It appears that '608' would belong to N308DE, which has ship number 3608 on the nose gear door:


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User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1630 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (11 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

Quoting mjgbtv (Reply 2):
It appears that '608' would belong to N308DE, which has ship number 3608 on the nose gear door:

Very plausible. Numbers peel off nose gear doors every so often, so that can't be ruled out...

In the Photo Search Engine here on A.net, you can search for the registration, CN (contruction number), or code (airline or military code, usually). This third option is what you want. Some airlines use different types of logic for their codes/nose numbers. AA uses alphanumeric codes for most fleets. Makes sense internally, but it rarely corresponds with the actual registration.



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User currently offlineGunnarInLA From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2657 times:

...Thanks all – great information – I learned about searching tool here on this site...have not yet tried that, but did check mjgbtv's suggestion of "N308DE"...did unfortunately not pan out...that particular aircraft wasn't in Southern California at the time...(September 15)

...I have now two Boeing 737s that I cannot identify – one with "608" on the nose wheel house doors and another with "627" in same place...

I will now avoid shooting Delta 737's from below.... : )

Yes, there's no confusing the 737s with the 757s in my opinion...especially when seen from below – 737 has wheels exposed, 757 does not...

Thanks everybody – I appreciate it – and will continue search with the two remaining 737s....


User currently offlineGunnarInLA From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2637 times:

...photo search did not produce anything – here's what I got...

"...Sorry, No Hits.
There were no photos in the database matching your query.
Keywords:
aircraft_generic:=boeing 737*
airline: "delta air lines" OR "(delta air lines)")
country:continent:north america
special:airliners
range:1
sort_order:photo_id desc
page_limit:15
page:1
sid:5703a84f5c0e6fe577d8229c41b2b743

Can't find what you're looking for?
- Check your spelling.
- Use fewer keywords to broaden the range of your search.
- Try the Photo Index. It's more powerful but might be a bit harder to use.
You may also try to search on MyAviation.net, a sister site of Airliners.net.
Site wide search
Search the whole of Airliners.net:..."

...when I added "608" in keywords, it made no difference...
The "3608" on the nose wheel doors, is what I found aat planespotters, but it's not the plane in question,,,I thought it was at first....
...also, in trhe results above, is there ambiguity between "delta air lines" and "delta air lines"...?? : )

I see you can insert picts inside the messages – that is cool...very helpful...


User currently offlineGunnarInLA From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2633 times:

I checked the post linked to above (Thanks!) – but it's still too "cryptic" – here's the relevant part:

Boeing 737-700 = 3101 - 3110 (N301DQ is 3101 and so forth...)
Boeing 737-800 = 3701 to 3772

...I can't see any applicable logic...unfortunately

Pity one can't search based on exactly what I have – Delta Air Lines – Boeing 737 – LAX – departure – 9/15/13, 6:15:06 PM...and of course nose wheel door number "608" – (and another unidentified number is 627...)


User currently offlinemjgbtv From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (11 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

Quoting GunnarInLA (Reply 6):
Pity one can't search based on exactly what I have – Delta Air Lines – Boeing 737 – LAX – departure – 9/15/13, 6:15:06 PM

Do you have the flight number or destination?


User currently offlineGunnarInLA From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

...no, I don't have any info about that...if I was quick at the time, I could have found it here - - ->

http://www.airport-la.com/lax/arrivals?t=-1

...but I didn't know then I would run in to these problems...and I don't think there are any archives to dig through on the site above....

I deleted my "627" delta 737 shot...but I thought I'd keep one – the 608 (at the nose wheel end)

...wikipedia doesn't have much info about these things either...

If flightaware allowed searches based on airlines and locations, it'd be great... : )


User currently offlinevikkyvik From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 9943 posts, RR: 26
Reply 9, posted (11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 2505 times:
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According to Flightaware, N308DE was nowhere near LAX on 9/15:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N308DE

Nor was N608DA:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N608DA

I tried a bunch of other similar number combinations, like 308, 808, 806, etc., but didn't find any matches.

Why don't you post the photo? That would probably clear it up much easier....



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User currently offlineGunnarInLA From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2468 times:

vikkyvik – I just replied to you on another thread – and I came here to reply to you that I had done more searching and found that your suggestion about mistaking a 737 for a 757 was understandable – Delta does in fact have a 757 showing "608" on the nose wheel house doors – exactly like they have on a 737....so from below, no markings separate them...one has to recognize the aircraft....

I haven't posted a single shot on Airliners.net....I read about posting before, when I signed up and tried to understand what "the rules of the game" were, and came to think that most pictures would be rejected...and I don't like that at all...I don't want to have fine shots rejected on grounds that they do not fit certain arbitrary criteria...so I never did...

It seemed to me that the only thing "appropriate" here was shots showing nose and tail touching edges of the "bounding box" and that just isn't an attractive way to compose aviation shots...and if that's they way it is at airliners.net, then I'm out...
Go to any aviation museum and check photography – you will rarely – if ever – find shots of that type...
Sometimes it can work, and I will do it now and then, but as a rule...no...


User currently offlineDL747 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

Quoting GunnarInLA (Reply 10):

I haven't posted a single shot on Airliners.net....I read about posting before, when I signed up and tried to understand what "the rules of the game" were, and came to think that most pictures would be rejected...and I don't like that at all...I don't want to have fine shots rejected on grounds that they do not fit certain arbitrary criteria...so I never did...

He meant post it in the forum, not upload it to the website. And, "fine" shots don't usually get rejected...

Quoting GunnarInLA (Reply 10):
It seemed to me that the only thing "appropriate" here was shots showing nose and tail touching edges of the "bounding box" and that just isn't an attractive way to compose aviation shots...and if that's they way it is at airliners.net, then I'm out...
Go to any aviation museum and check photography – you will rarely – if ever – find shots of that type...
Sometimes it can work, and I will do it now and then, but as a rule...no...

Huh? On the contrary, there should be a bit of space between the aircraft and the edge of the frame.

John



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