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P&S Digital Or SLR, Which One Should I Get?  
User currently offlineOH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3909 times:

I have decided to get a new camera, now i want your opinions of what to get. I have been thinking of these packages, what do you think of them:

Digital

Canon Pro 90+IBM 1GB Microdrive (total: 1439.43€)

SLR

Nikon F80+Nikkor 28-80 f/3.5-5.6+Nikkor 80-200 f/2.8+Sigma EX Tele-Converter (total: 1929.7€).

Should i get a Digital Point&Shoot camera or a film SLR?
I'm not sure myself, because i've seen a lot of great and sharp pics taken with digital cameras, but i've also seen great pics taken with film SLR's, so i'm a little confused. If i had the money my choice would no doubt be a digital SLR but there's no way i can afford it  Sad.

Any input is appreciated.

Alexander

PS. And don't turn this into any kind of war (eg. Canon vs. Nikon etc.).

PPS. And if you are interested i currently use a Canon A-1 with numerous Canon FD Lenses.

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User currently offlineOH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3873 times:

Forgot to add:

My dad's company has a Canoscan FS4000US Slide Scanner so scanning my pics won't be a problem if i choose the SLR.

Alexander


User currently offlineCraigy From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 1118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3855 times:

Alexander,
How many photos do you take per month? The cost of (slide?) film and developing needs to be considered too, as does the ease of availability of the scanner.

Digitals like the Pro 90 (which I have) have some compromises over SLRs, especially in the areas of response times. and do you need more zoom than the Canon's fixed 370mm lens gives? I would prefer CF cards to microdrives, as they are not mechanical, and are generally faster and possibly(?) more reliable.

Regards,
Craig.


User currently offlineOH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

Hello Craig, thanks a lot for the quick response.
During the summer i suppose i can take many rolls a day, during the winter it's maximium 2-3 rolls a week if the weather is exceptionally good (which it rarely is up here). I've come to a conclusion that i'll shoot around 2000 pictures this year.
I usually use Kodak Elitechrome Extracolour, a good photolab sells it with their processing for around 9€.

2000/36=55.555556

55.555556*9=500

So i (or my dad Big grin) will pay around 500 € for the film i use this year.

1439.43/500=2.87886

It would take 2.87886 years to make the camera purhase profitable, by that time the Pro 90 would be quite outdated. If i buy a F80 i can later buy a used Nikon Digital SLR and use the lenses i buy with the F80 with it, that is if i buy a Nikon, which i'll propably buy if i chose to buy a Film SLR.

Thanks a lot for your help Craig.

Alexander


User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3837 times:

I think you'd be better off with the F80 + lenses. Digital camera still have a long way to come and I still think the film cameras produce better quality images that these mid range Digital one.
Plus, like you said, in the future, when the Digitals improve in quality and reduce in price you have some nice lenses to go with it.

Whichever one you want to go for, choose it logically and dont get carried away in the recent Digital frenzy.

"Good things come to those who wait"

Good Luck,
Martin


User currently offlineOH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3834 times:

Thanks a lot for your help Martin.
I can't deny i've been a bit carried away in the Digital Frenzy  Big grin.

Alexander


User currently offlinePunmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3824 times:

So you now have a Canon body + lenses? How much is the D30 where you live? I think you could use your lenses with it too.
Peter



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User currently offlineOH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3819 times:

Hello Peter,
unfortunately my Canon body and lenses are using the FD system, not the EF that the D30 uses  Crying.
Thanks a lot for the help anyway.

Alexander


User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3815 times:

Does the D30 accept FD Manual Focus lenses ?

User currently offlineOH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3806 times:

Martin

I'm afraid not, maybe with an adaptor but that would lower image quality  Sad.

Alexander


User currently offlineOH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3798 times:

Well now it looks like i'm going to buy a film SLR.
Thanks for your help everyone, i greatly appreciate it.

Alexander


User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 732 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3779 times:

There IS an FD adapter for EOS cameras, but it's not made or recommended by Canon and turns an EOS camera into a purely manual beast (inc. exposure). I was warned off it by a number of experts.

Alexander - my thinking on this subject when I changed from FD was where do I want to go long term? Digital cameras were not sufficiently developed/affordable for me at the time, but since I had to abandon the FD system, I wanted to buy into to something that would give me high quality and additional capability now, but be reasonably future proof. To that end I went Canon EOS (specifically the EOS 3, but the body doesn't really matter) largely because of the IS lenses. These will stay with me when I eventually move to digital - probably in the form of the 1D, which meets my spec for pixel data and performance at a price significantly less than the Nikon equivalent.

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlineOH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3771 times:

Hello Colin,Thanks for your advice,
my Canon option would be the EOS 33 (494.90€)+Sigma EX 2,8/70-200 APO HSM (incl. Sigma EX 2x TC)(956.90€)+ Another zoom lens to cover the area below 70mm. What do you think of it? Also i would like to have suggestions for the zoom lens for shorter distances.

Alexander


User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 732 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3763 times:

Alexander - sounds like a good package to me. If you can afford it the Canon 28-135mm with image stabilisation is a very handy lens and covers a useful range. With the IS, I've been able to handhold shots down to 1/8th with good results. Look around - there may be deals on the EOS combined with this lens - there was when I bought my EOS last year.

If you are thinking of going digital at a later stage, you might want to consider something that goes a bit wider - 16-18mm since the "magnifying" effect of CCDs means that while you get a welcome boost at the tele end, getting genuine wide angle shots is difficult. I think Sigma has brought out a new range of zooms to address this issue, though I haven't handled one yet.

Personally I went for the Canon 17-35mm L, but this is an expensive bit of kit and I couldn't justify it just on the grounds of aircraft photography - its used more often for landascapes and interiors.

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlineOH-LZA From Finland, joined Jun 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3760 times:

Well, now it looks like i am going get the Canon+Sigma kit mentioned above. Thanks for your help everyone.

Alexander


User currently offlineFlyVS007 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 186 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (12 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3753 times:

If its a choice of one or the other, not just digital vs SLR, I'd go for the SLR. The Pro90 is a good, popular camera, but its kind of out of date already. The last thing you should do is spend a ton of money on soemthing that is already behind the times. Whereas the SLR is almost timeless, as many will tell you, you'll end up using it for years and years to come. And if not, they re-sell well.

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