Fly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3078 posts, RR: 55 Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2785 times:
Vasco, are you asking this out of personal interest?
Is anyone staying with good old slides?
I'm thinking and thinking too... (but would probably stay with Canon)
Konstantin
Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been...
Alaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 20 Reply 3, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2767 times:
Well Vasco, that would have to be the Nikon. Good quality, high mp! What else could you ask for?
DSMav8r From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 579 posts, RR: 9 Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 2761 times:
Vasco --
It really is too early for a judgement. There is not a lot of data on the D100 out yet, just pre-production photos/specs. I do believe that these cameras are going to be very similar in just about every way...Therefore, if I were a prospective buyer, I would be looking at the cost of each camera's accessories (i.e. lenses) and comparing those instead.
To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is home
Staffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2735 times:
After seeing Colin's shots that came straight out of his camera I have to say I'm really impressed with the quality of the Digital SLR's.
As a person who's used neither N or C (well except for my ixus), I have to say that I've got the impression that you get more for the money with Canon, just my impression though..
Konstantin, eat this: SLIDES, SLIDES, SLIDES
Staffan
(waiting for the day hell freezes over and digital SLR's become cheaper than film ones)
Ckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 323 posts, RR: 19 Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 2730 times:
Yes it is to early to make a choice, but, on the info available, I suspect (grudgingly ) that the D100 is a better camera (better build? better AF ... almost certainly).
But I suspect that Canon's 6mp CMOS sensor will produce a better image. However, I would not base anything on pre-production shots - the D60 showed significant improvements between pre-launch firmware images and the production version. We'll need to wait til the Nikon hits the streets to make any sensible comparison.
Tonimr From Spain, joined Jan 2001, 324 posts, RR: 30 Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 2709 times:
Vasco:
We shouldn't say until production units of both are in the market. (Though I will go for D100 for sure as I've got Nikon glass ).
It seems that D60 CMOS technology should provide better image quality, but why the EOS-1D, Canon's digital flagship, has a CCD?.
AF seems to be better on the Nikon D100.
On preliminary tests buffering capabilities seem to be better on the D60.
Digital vs Slide: THAT could be a great thread! I don't think that I would stop shooting slides, but I expect a great reduction when the D100 arrives...
Time will tell
Toni
There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
Ckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 323 posts, RR: 19 Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2662 times:
I think the 1D is a specialised beast, designed for the pro sports photographer ... in my opinion, Canon sacrificed a little image quality in the interest of high speed - this is a very fast camera. I don't think at present CMOS data can be processed as quickly as CCD. Interestingly the rumour factory seems pretty sure that Canon will release a CMOS based version of the 1D - possibly with the D60 CMOS, or possible a larger one for the landscape photographers - in the next 12 months.
Digital vs slide? I'd guess you can still "prove" slide is theoretically better, but, when it comes to practical applications, digital is certainly surpassing slide on many fronts. I can see for a fact that there is simply no way I can scan any slide (on a Nikon 4000) and match the quality of the D60. True, I don't have anyway of projecting a D60 image against a wall with anything near the quality of slide - but I never project slides anyway.
For many (most?) the final product is usually a print of up to around 8x10 or a digital image. I'm convinced (and backed my opinion with hard cash) that digital can now meet both these requirements better than film.
Yes, K25 has potentially better resolution, sharpness and colour - but this will only be evident in very large prints.
PUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4161 posts, RR: 59 Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 2662 times:
Based on my Experiences with the D1X i would say go for the Canon. The D1X has a serious problem with dust getting on the CCD which is a nightmare. You will have to spend houres with cloning out the dust on the images.
Oh and I think the Canon (at least the D30) brings up a better image quality.
Peter
DSMav8r From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 579 posts, RR: 9 Reply 11, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2646 times:
Peter,
I find it interesting that you have had such a problem with dust? I have had my D1H for almost 8 months now and I have only had to swab my CCD once. Most of the time a blub-blower is more than enough to get off any dust. This is of course providing that you use the EH-4 A/C adapter while cleaning...Otherwise there will still be a charge on the CCD, which makes it difficult to remove the dust.
Aric Thalman
Omaha, NE
To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is home
Chrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1456 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 2648 times:
I believe the D1H doesn't have that dust problem (as much as the D1X). It's basically a D1 with a higher buffer and chip. I have a major dust problem on my D1X, and it's getting to the point where it needs to go to Los Angeles to be cleaned.
I have to disagree with the better image quality though Peter.
DSMav8r From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 579 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2654 times:
Chris,
I too have to agree that the D1H/D1X image quality is better than the Canon counterpart (especially out-of-the-camera). However, to the average observer there won't be much of a difference...I just like the color palette a little better with the Nikon's, especially when used with Adobe RGB.
Aric Thalman
Omaha, NE
To most people, the sky is the limit. To those who love aviation, the sky is home
C-GRYK From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 751 posts, RR: 49 Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2632 times:
Uhhhh Dmitry, the D60 is high quality and high megapixel too... how exactly did you come up with your answer? Any research done? Doesn't look like it... try doing some research next time when offering input regarding camera purchases. Nikon's aren't for everyone (even though I have one)...
Da fwog From United Kingdom, joined Aug 1999, 867 posts, RR: 11 Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2601 times:
I'd certainly be interested in battery life too. Not something I had previously considered, I had a clear illustration of the differences between different cameras when I was shooting at LHR with Mr Taperell & Mr Unmuth on Wednesday. My D30 managed 1400 frames on the day, and I had to change the itty-bitty Canon Li-Ion battery about 2/3 of the way through. Meanwhile, Peter's D1X was gobbling up the large Nikon battery packs at several times the speed.
This could be down to all sorts of factors, but I'm led to believe (by Jason, in fact) that the Canon CMOS sensor consumes a lot less power than CCDs. So I'd certainly be very interested in how the D100 fares on power consumption compared to the D60. Not least because those battery packs aren't cheap!
Planedoctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 286 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (10 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2597 times:
If you go to www.dpreview.com the forums are battling this one out already. In my opinion it is way to premature to debate about the qaulity of a camera that hasn't even hit the shelves yet. It is likely that Nikon doesn't know exactly the image quality and battery life they will eventually get out of the D100. Hopefully for everyone's sake it is great. Even if turns out to be way better than Canon, it doesn't make the pictures I take with whatever camera I have now any worse.
PUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4161 posts, RR: 59 Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2596 times:
Right. I forgot to mention the power consumption of my camera compared to the D30. The Nikon really sucks the power pack empty, even without reviewing the pictures immediately on the screen. Hopefully they will improve it on the D100.
@Aric:
Yes i do use the power adapter you mentioned when I try to blow off the dust from the ccd. But the results are mmmh not very pleasing. I even used the vacuum cleaner to get the dust out, which makes it a little bit better but also not completely satisfying. BTW which swabs are you using.
Peter
Tonimr From Spain, joined Jan 2001, 324 posts, RR: 30 Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 2573 times:
One of the good aspects of the D100 is (will be) the ability of using the MB-D100, that could combine the Nikon Lithium batteries and AA batteries (rechargable or not).
But the D100 won't come for free...
I also read a lot of posts on dpreview forums but in our case most of us have a complete system yet (Either Canon, Nikon or whatsoever), and changing to the other simply by differences in current models is a mistake as big as thinking than one of this brands is definitively best than the other... (though it is )
Toni
There is a very fine line between 'hobby' and 'mental illness'.
DSMav8r From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 579 posts, RR: 9 Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2558 times:
Peter,
I use Sensor Swabs made by Photographic Solutions. They worked very well, it only took one attempt to get the CCD clean...I know the manual tells you not to use anything but a bulb blower (which is nonsense), considering Nikon service uses Kim Wipe swabs. I also have an air compressor (filtered) that I use on all of my camera equipment, which also does a good job at removing dust internally on the D1H, but you have to be careful about air pressure, so usually I stick with the bulb-blower unless the dust is being stubborn.
Aric Thalman
Omaha, NE
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Ckw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 323 posts, RR: 19 Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2553 times:
I'm with Toni - for many there will be no real choice - the investment in lenses will probably far out weigh percieved advantages of either camera. I think the really interesting candidate is the Sigma as this offers a real alternative to those who are not already aligned to Nikon or Canon.
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