Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9444 posts, RR: 72 Posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1998 times:
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Why do some reviewers ALWAYS kick my stuff out to Johan? Thankfully HE (and all the others who have emailed me lately) appreciates shots other than digital stuff taken yesterday.
Perhaps next time you are out at your favorite airport maybe you can grab a shot of a Convair 880 or Delta 747.
Chazzerguy From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 277 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1908 times:
Royal-
Is this more stuff from your Dad's collection?... Some of that stuff really is great, as I've told you before, but perhaps you could give us the link to some of the rejects so we could see for ourselves? We all get our share of rejects... Don't take it personally...
Dazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5447 posts, RR: 53 Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 1916 times:
I'm loving the stuff from the 70's everyone has been uploading (Art, You, Johan etc). The older stuff is supposed to have an easier time getting on here.
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1894 times:
There has been some recent debate about whether it is OK for the site to accept uploads from people who did not take the photograph - for the most part, uploads by other than the photographer are not allowed without the upload comments specifically providing reasons for this (read the site FAQs - its all there).
Royal, therein is the difference between the treatment of your pictures, and those of others uploading from the same period - a number have been passed to Johan because screeners weren't sure how to deal with this issue. I think however the situation has now been resolved in respect of YOUR pictures (note to others - all situations like this are dealt with on a case by case basis).
However, I have to say, as with another topic running parallel to this one, you could help your cause and get a more positive answer if you chose a more appropriate title and a more sympathetic approach for your topic - taking the sort of attitude you did in your opening just risks making enemies.
EGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12426 posts, RR: 41 Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1863 times:
A couple of my dads old pictures I originally uploaded in my name, but subsequently changed to his because I felt awkward and kinda un-deserving (He said but them in my name, but I decided it was best if it was his name on the photos!).
Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9444 posts, RR: 72 Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1852 times:
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Let me tell you about what this has done for my dad and I. I've always been on good terms with my dad, but he is a busy guy, always has been. He loves his work. As a child he used to take me with him to LAX to shoot pictures. Right after September 11th I discovered Airliners.net, and started to remember my love of aviation photography.
After viewing the pictures and reading the posts I started exploring around Seattle and Vancouver for places to view planes. Thanks to the advice of a couple of people on this forum I spent two 3-day weekends at the Fairmont Vancouver doing nothing but watching heavy jets fly in from Europe and Asia. I loved it. I decided that I wanted to contribute. I thought about my dad's collection, I talked it over with him, and he sent me 3 slide trays full of shots. He spends his time in Toronto now, he even sent them overnight to me.
After I had the first shots scanned, and after I pushed them through Photoshop, they got posted. I was SO excited. I wrote my dad an email, here is a snippet of his reply:
"What an absolutely cool email! Thanks for sending me this. It made my weekend. It might sound kind of silly, but when one of your children gets into something you like, and did long before, it kind of validates
all the effort. Thanks."
If my post title sounds negative it is because I am very disapointed. I have spent prob 50 hours and over $300 (not to mention the Coolscan 4000 that is sitting next to me ready to scan more pictures) on these shots, only to have them banished for months with a click of the mouse.
Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9444 posts, RR: 72 Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1820 times:
The Hawaii Express, 1983. This picture is grainy, taken with a long lens, but defines rare. This is the only type of shot where you will find both Hawaii Express DC-10's in the same shot, taken a couple of days after they went belly-up, 2 days after Christmas '83. http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/big/ready/hawaiianexpress.jpg
Kingwide From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 838 posts, RR: 21 Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1817 times:
I think you're missing the point totally here. There's no argument about the quality of the shots. The issue is that whoever screened them wasn't prepared to make a decision about whether you were able to post them under your own name. In these situations, we send them to Johan. That's what has happened. They're not rejected, nobody's said they hate them, they're just waiting for the guy in charge to make a decision about them. I really do not see why you're getting so excitied about this.
Now, if you had uploaded under your dad's name then there wouldn't have been any issue at all.
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1806 times:
Jason is absolutely right - there's no problem with the pictures themselves and as you rightly say some are rather unique as far as airliners.net is concerned. The problem with the photographs you have submitted, and the reason they have gone to Johan, is been related to the following issue which is taken straight from the FAQs page:
If you would like to send us photos taken by your friend or similar you must contact us prior to uploading them and give us some sort of proof that you have permission from the copyright holder to send them to us or they won't be added.
In cases like yours, if the screeners are unsure whether you have the agreement of the copyright owner to upload the pictures, they get sent to Johan.
The sort of comment you have made above, about you having got the agreement of your father (had you made it before you started uploading) would probably have solved the problem before it ever became a problem.
LGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1817 times:
I agree with all that has been said - especially about the name. If I was uploading my dad's old slides he shot then Id use HIS name not mine, afterall its the PHOTOGRAPHERS name not the UPLOADERS name
Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9444 posts, RR: 72 Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1804 times:
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so, the answer is to stop uploading? That sure seems like a lose/lose situation. And what of the 21 pictures I already have in the database?
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1779 times:
Clickhappy,
WHATS THE PROBLEM?
You say you've got your fathers permission - we know that now, we didn't before. So instead of sending any further pictures you upload to Johan, maybe (just maybe ) we'll accept them directly in future.
And if you still doubt that and want to be doubly sure the pictures will be accepted, how about putting your fathers name on the uploads rather than your own, as has been suggested by others?
There - problem gone away. The pictures will get onto the database one way or another. End of subject???
Screener3 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1756 times:
EGGD,
No it wasn't Gary, it was me.
We don't accept pictures from friends (ie Joe Blow uploads pictures taken by Mary Juhana under his name), and the other screeners commented on the images about accepting pix from you that your dad took.
I'm confused as to one aspect though, why can't you put your dad's name in there instead of yours? Honestly, how hard would that be? If that was the case, they would be on here in an instant.
Soku39 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1797 posts, RR: 10 Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1735 times:
The pic of the capitol DC-10 is a great shot. Taken at JFK I guess??
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