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Honolulu/Maui Spotting Advice And Tips Needed!  
User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5404 times:

I'll be hopefully (non-reving) flying to Hawaii during the first part of August. I'd love to do some photography at HNL and in Maui. Any ideas or hints? I remember a few months ago there was a post here about how unfriendly the airport is for photographers at HNL. Is that still true? I'd love to get some great shots if anybody has any suggestions. Any help and suggestions for Maui would also be most appreciated.

I wonder if my employer (Korean Air) can help me at HNL? Should I try and contact the station manager there?

Thanks!



Jay


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User currently offlineRes From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5340 times:

One of my friends works at Hickam AFB and he says if you're caught taking pictures with a film camera, authorities take your film, no questions asked. If you use a digital camera, they take the whole camera as they may think photos are stored somewhere else on the camera...bunch of BS. This might only apply to the AFB and not HNL.

-Tim



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User currently offlineJoe pries From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1957 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5324 times:

Jay,
on Lagoon drive, show them your KAL ID to get through the guard post they put up- should get you in- once youre there with your camera- i dont know- remember, its a 1/2 airforce base so personally i would suggest you keep the camera on waikiki beach- if they see you with camera they're gonna get stupid- one thing if its a commercial field but with mil planes in and out all day-they at the very least are gonna break your balls bigtime if you are out with the camera. Be careful please.

Joe


User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5305 times:

So Joe, are you saying you wouldn't even risk it?
Are there "any" places other than Lagoon Drive?
Anything from inside the terminals? I just hate
knowing that all these jumbos are going to be
there and I can't shoot them? Any place to take
approach shots or departure shots? Any help
would be most appreciated.

I will be careful !!


Thanks Joe!

Jay


User currently offlineChris28_17 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1439 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 5303 times:

here's that post>>>

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/48539/

joe nailed it, "BE CAREFUL". As you will read in that post ^ hawaii cops love their power and if there is one place on earth that you could be arrested for taking pictures, it's probably there.

let us know how it goes if you decide to take the challenge.

chris


User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5291 times:

Thanks for the link to that archived thread.
I even posted there.

Sure would like to talk to HAL who posted on there, but he doesn't have his e-mail listed.

As anyone who is reading this thread living in Hawaii?
I would absolutely LOVE to take some shots while I am in Hawaii and yes, I do have an airline ID.

BUT, I don't want to get my film confiscated or my camera taken from me as it is quite expensive.

Would you even think about contacting the airport manager and tell him what I would like to do? Such as arrange a tour of the airport, etc? Any help, ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

This is already starting to piss me off and I haven't even gone over there yet!! Is it because of Hickman AFB? I wonder if there is any place on the 'Net that one can find a print out stating that it is NOT against FAA regulations to take photos of airliners at a public airport? Just trying to think "outside the box" !!

Jay


User currently offlineJoe pries From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1957 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 5279 times:

Jay,
youre making this too complicated im afraid  Smile/happy/getting dizzy -its post 9/11, youre talking about a military airfield- and going there with a camera- if you get past the roadblock- is a dangerous proposition. I've personally written off HNL shooting for a long long time and i've been there 3 times in the past 4 years.

Joe


User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 5260 times:

Joe,

Guess I'll just see what happens when I get there. That really sucks though because HNL has some great traffic.

Thanks!

Jay


User currently offlinePlanedoctor From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

I just got back from a trip to HNL with the intent of doing some plane spotting among other things. Around the airport, such as the public roads at the ends of the runways, are patrolled. No photography is allowed. The best places I found to take photos were from the top of Aloha tower (quite a distance, though. Even my 640mm zoom made the planes kind of tiny) and within the HNL airport itself. I was surrounded by security guards while I was in the airport, and I had a really long zoom on a D30 and nobody seemed to mind. (It was the day I was leaving, so I was a ticketed passenger). The traffic there is phenomenal, and the public road at the end of the runway would lend some amazing takeoff shots. Too bad it is a secure area now  Sad

-Ken


User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 5206 times:

Ken,

They (the airport officials) wouldn't even let you take planes from inside the terminal. I know that HNL has open air terminals, but I'm asking, once you got past security, is photography prohibited as it is in some countries in Asia for example?

This is going to kill me to not to get to shoot any airliners at HNL !!

Jay


User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5179 times:

6 days and counting to HNL and I still don't know what to do about this situation.

Can a card carrying, flag waving American REALLY not take any photos of airliners from inside the HNL terminal which, if I am not mistaken, is still on American soil !!

This is absurd !!

Did anyone read the editorial in last month's Airliners magazine by John Proctor? He addressed something along the lines of this subject about how every airport, almost, in America is now so "unfriendly", especially towards spotters and photographers.

I mean, do all of us look like terrorists? We stick out like sore thumbs at airports! We have 20 cameras and lenses wrapped around our necks, along with binoculars and scanners and 30 rolls of film. Terrorists try to blend in with the scenery ! We don't blend in at all.

This is so stupid !! I feel like writing my Senator and Congressman about this !!

Jay Davis


User currently offlineRindt From Germany, joined May 2000, 930 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5160 times:

I have no idea about the situation outside the airport, but inside the terminal at the EWA concourse passed security, I had absolutely no problems taking night stills through the open air terminal, and this was at 1am. So, I'd have to think during the day would cause no problems either???

-Rob



What other people think of you is none of your business!
User currently offlineNCTR From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 38 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5152 times:

Hey, I have been to HNL & OGG several times and never once had a problem
taking photos. They actually ignored me as if I wasn't even there. However,
I'm sure the USAF base there is a different story. The only shooting I did of
the base was from the plane while we were taxing. You might be able to take
a sight seeing flight in a helicopter and get some good shots around the airport and surrounding area ??? I would like to know how it goes ..........

Gregg


User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5124 times:

Okay, I've got some good information about HNL.

Can someone now give me any good information for OGG?


Thanks to all for your help. I've got 12 rolls of K64 ready to burn!


Jay


User currently offlineTallguy14 From United States of America, joined Jul 2002, 228 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5094 times:
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Hi Jay-- OGG has some great places to take pictures, but you have to seek them out. Last December I stumbled upon a public road which runs parallel to the airport, just on the other side of the runway. With a telephoto you'd get some great pictures of a/c taxiing in front of the terminal. I don't know the name of the road (and it's not the Hana Highway), but it is used by locals and is open to the public. You might get hassled by cops, but somehow I doubt it. Follow your nose, and you'll stumble onto it like I did!

There are also several roads which lie beneath the final approach path, on the southern end of the field. Try along the Haleakala Highway. There probably are some public access roads that will get you closer to the action.

Try this link:
http://www.travelmaui.com/condo_rental/map.html

Jeff


User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2357 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 5056 times:
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Honolulu is the worst place for taking photos. Both roads (lagoon drive, Elliot St) are blocked (you can get in if they check you if you are "ok". The guard is there ready to confiscate your camera. A friend Richard Wood and I are trying to finding more spotting areas outside the airport.

User currently offlineCatball From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4996 times:

The fact that there are many areas inside the airport that are open air, meaning no windows between you and the ramp area, allows some photo ops. If you have time to wait around I'm sure you could get some decent shots. I will include a couple of links. Not the best quality, but you get the idea.

http://www.panddsewing.com/images/nw10.jpg
http://www.panddsewing.com/images/L10.jpg

Good Luck !

Scott Jackson


User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 4777 times:

Well I used my Korean Air ID to get past the guards on Lagoon Drive. A fairly good spot! Hope to upload some shots, very soon, once I get them back from the lab.

I also went up to the parking garage to try and shoot some and a "rent-a-cop" finally came up to the top and told me I had to stop shooting. I asked him if what I was doing was against the law and he said, "no, but you need a permit from the airport director to shoot here"! What a crock of shit! I was about ready to leave for the day anyway so I just left.

Maui was okay, just didn't have time to take too many shots. Got stranded on the way back to Dallas in Seattle and was "finally" able to shoot the AlaskaAir.com Blue 737 but it was from inside the Continental Airlines President's Club. I hope the results are good!


Jay


User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2357 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 4782 times:
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Dosen't the terminal have the "No photography" signs all over the place? People down at Lagoon Drive/Elliot Street are very unfriendly to me. I get  Pissed  Insane  Nuts  Yeah sure every time I see them...

User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2357 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 4762 times:
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That really sucks though because HNL has some great traffic.

No way! It is just a waste of time going to Honolulu International! You'd get no air traffic plus the guards will give you a lot of trouble! You could try if you want to but I don't recommend it.

Je89


User currently offlineJayDavis From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2000 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (11 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 4759 times:

No one gave me strange looks at all on Lagoon Drive but I did have an airline ID so maybe that helped.

I wasn't actually in the terminal when I got busted, I was on top of the parking garage.

The guy running HNL is a asshole/jerk in my opinion. I have to go get a permit to photograph there........WHAT A JOKE !!


Jay


User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2357 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4738 times:
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I agree Jay!

Je89  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


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