L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29367 posts, RR: 61 Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1974 times:
Kodachrome 64........
OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
Kay From France, joined Mar 2002, 1884 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1960 times:
These pictures almost discourage me from buying the 707! I know there's a price difference, but the darkness + red of the 707? can't be fixed prior to taking the shot?
LGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1947 times:
Too be honest, from what I have seen from the F707 I am not too impressed. Mr Abbot is a master but other shots I have seen do not seem to warrant the money for it.
For me its :-
1) D60
2) Velvia
3) F707
This discolouring at the bottom left corner worries me still - i have seen numerous shots from many different photographers in different conditions and I notice the same discolouration. Now, some photogs say its weather, fence, smog what ever but I actually thing is an F707 'thing'
Planenut From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 107 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1929 times:
One thing I forgot to mansion is the photo is straight from the camera all I done was resize it and the camera was on the default settings. So it gives you a good idea of the quality. Sometimes you don't always get that because a imaging program can work wonders.
Steve
The dark area could have been Dean as I was unknowingly standing next to him
EGFF From UK - Wales, joined Sep 2001, 2201 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1907 times:
Hey Steve, yeah great pics ... nice to see you getting up close and personal with the big guy (Dean)
Dean is a great photographer and judging from your shot Steve your doing a great job, keep the pics coming!
EGFF
EGBB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1909 times:
I have now had my 707 for 3 months and believe it is the best value for money camera on the market. Yes, the Canon D60 is better than the Sony but you have to ask the question is it a £1000 difference better?
I had to spend extra on the purchase of a B300 converter to get the more distant shots and the smaller aircraft we get here at BHX but I believe this has been worth every penny.
I had my camera in May, so I think the early problems with the dark left hand side have been rectified by Sony and, therefore, this has not been a problem for me.
Dazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5447 posts, RR: 53 Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1890 times:
Right off the bat you can tell which is the D60 and F707. Colors look better on the D60 (as it should, you're paying like $1500 more!)
The 1500$ difference in my opinion isn't justified only because of the image quality. The difference shown in the pics isn't worth spending an extra 1500$. On the other hand the D60 offers you also more possibilities, because you can use different lenses.
Perhaps one day, when the D60 are given away for 1000$ or less, ....
Regards
Gerardo
dominguez(dash)online(dot)ch ... Pushing the limits of my equipment
EGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12426 posts, RR: 40 Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1805 times:
I am not impressed by the F707, considering its price tag and limitations, I'd say it wasn't worth the money. If you look at the image quality between it and the C2100, there is absolutely nothing in it, and when you consider the C2100 has twice the focal length, and half the price, its no contest.
I chose the Pro90 over the F707, because for £800 I could get everything that I needed, and still get good pictures, whereas the F707 would have cost me £1100 to get the same goodies (£950 for the camera, £140 for the B-300, £100 for 128mb memory stick, £40 for some more batteries...).
Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9461 posts, RR: 72 Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1800 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW PHOTO SCREENER
what about the Nikon Coolpix 5000? I shopped between that and F707, what you give up in optical zoom you make up for (in my opinion) with the ability to shoot planes close up and fill the frame (28mm wide lense) and you can fit the 5000 thru fence openings...
EDIpic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1793 times:
Hello out there.
Before descending into a my camera is better than yours thread, don't miss the point created by Steve.
Same situation, side-by-side, from 'click' to airliners.net.
We haven't heard from Dean yet.
For all I know, he may have rattled off 6 x shots as the 'plane approached.
Discarded five and kept the one seen above?
In Steve's case, it was one shot. The next one could be heading away from him once the camera had refreshed and ready again.
Photographic skill and timing required using the F707? You bet!
Also, are any deficiencies found in the D60 or F707 correctable with post-image maniplulation? They certainly are.
LGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1790 times:
I am certainly not entering a 'my camera is better than yours' war! in fact i dont think anone is...
I simply have a few reservations with the F707 and dan simply commented on the camera.
And we are, after all, all commenting on the 2 photos above...no more...no less...
I actually find this thread very interesting as long as people comment on good/bad points of cameras and as you say not a my cam is better than yours. as long as people simply pass comments on their views and why they do/dont like certain cameras...i find all this very interesting
EGBB From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1756 times:
Well said LGW
If someone wanted to swop a D60 for my F707 I would be a fool to say no.
My point was is the D60 quality twice as good as the 707? Is it worth paying twice as much again for the, in my opinion, "small" improvement in quality?
Before the Sony I had a Canon EOS300 and used the print/scan method. I upgraded this for the Sony at double the cost, the reason why..
I believe the improvment in quality is easy to see and well worth the "double the cost" but would it be so apparent if I were to upgrade to a D60 at "double the cost"?
And, let's face it, it would be a rather boring world if we all liked the same aircraft, cars, women and, oh yes almost forgot, cameras
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1752 times:
Derek,
Understand entirely your decision to move to the 707 (although I've not been happy about you using it at my local airport, but that's another matter )
Actually, I'm not going to make a judgement on which is better based on the above comparison either, and certainly not on whether the Canon is worth twice the Sony - each to their own, based on their own preferences and budget. However, my own choice was easy (if expensive), and was made to a large extent on the basis that I'd already invested close on £2000 in Canon lenses and wanted to continue shooting some slides on my existing SLR.
LGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1741 times:
Derek, I agree, the D60 quality is NOT twice as good as the F707 at twice the price. But, also, are you only paying for quality?
I think not. On the DSLR's of course you can change lenses etc so that needs to be included in any fair comparison.
I agree with andy, we all have different budgets and different requirments from our equipment...and so we make the decisions based on OUR situation
"aircraft, cars, women and, oh yes almost forgot, cameras "
Derek, I think we are all the same then, I challenge anyone here not to like most if not all of those
LGW
25 Dazed767: I probably should have added more to my original post. I am quite happy with my F707 (not a fan of the digital view finder, and the sometimes funky au
26 EDIpic: Eh?...Ben, I'm not getting at you, young man.... There's no need to mention other comparisons in this thread. (Go on, start your own Koolpix 5000 Vs F
27 Dazed767: Yeah I also hate how the viewfinder goes black for that split second (either you got the shot, or you didn't!). But hey, every camera has it's problem
28 PPGMD: I think the thing that most people forget that the F707 is a consumer camera, it is sold at Best Buy for a reason. Now compared to D100, D60s and such
29 LGW: What dont you get gerry? Im saying the D60 is double the £££ but it is not twice as good in the quality department...but there are other reasons ex
30 Gerardo: EDI, I thank for your hint about the overexposure. I mostly do the complete opposite: I underexpose on sunny days by -0.3EV or sometimes even -0.7EV.
31 Granite: Hi all Not wanting to get TOO involved but if I did not have the money for my D30, I would have chosen the Sony F707. Sony make fantastic cameras and
32 Planenut: One of the main reasons I posted the two photos was not to judge "Who's the best camera" simply to show how good the F707 from Sony really is, its goo
33 Shawn Patrick: The F707 is serving as a "learning camera" for me right now. It's my first camera, so I'm using it to learn about photography with it. Well, digital p
34 EDIpic: Digital zoom on the F707? There's a funny thing, I forgot all about that. A couple of shots I have already got on a.net have been taken with the digit
35 LOT767-300ER: Anyone know where you can purchase a Olympus B-300 outside of Ebay? Damn I need one
36 EDIpic: No, I can't see a B-300 anywhere either... Alternative is the Olympus TCON-14B (1.45 x teleconvertor) A bit easier to get hold of, maybe a bit cheaper
37 Shawn Patrick: Also, the TCON-14B is a little less zoom, but since the B300 has been discontinued, it looks like the only alternative...
38 Shawn Patrick: Another awesome perk included with the F707 is that the lens unit pivots up about 70º and down about 30º so that you can get a better angle. This is
39 LOT767-300ER: Gerry: Yes ive seen this. It sells for around $100. I will have to get it if I cant get someone to find me one. "Also, the TCON-14B is a little less z
40 LOT767-300ER: Guys, http://www.precision-camera.com/buy/raynox.htm Raynox DCR-1850Pro 1.85X with a $7 step down is a sweet TC for the F707. Priced just $120 at Prec
41 Shawn Patrick: Well I've heard that Raynox lenses have poor quality compared to the TCON-14B and B300. Hell who knows. But 3x would be sweet! What is the make/model?
42 LOT767-300ER: Indeed Raynox's quality isnt as good as Sony. However ive seen this lense planted on the F707 and done with photos. Not bad at all...... http://www.wr
43 LOT767-300ER: BTW: Do you need a step up or a step down for the TCON-14B or is it screw on right away
44 Shawn Patrick: I'm pretty sure it screws right on Wow, that link is awesome, LOT. Am I right in saying that it would increase our zoom to 570mm?
45 LOT767-300ER: Yep i think so. Its huge though lol! man oh man lol
46 Gerardo: Talking about Sony F707: Does anybody use "Digital Wallet" or something similar to store the pics? What do you do, when your memory stick ist full and
47 Shawn Patrick: I'd love to have a digital wallet, but they are too darn expensive! Just because I have a digital camera doesn't mean I'm going to take lousy photos -
49 Gerardo: Shawn Patrick wrote: "If you manage 50-60 airliners.net quality pictures per day, you're either a world class photographer or you spend way too much t
50 Shawn Patrick: Oh right, now I see your dillema! On my vacations so far, I've had access to a computer of one of my friend's/family member's, so I just download to t
51 Gerardo: That's an idea. Although, even at home I would be petrified thinking about the upload time of a 128MB memory stick..... Perhaps a 2nd memory stick wou
52 LGW: "petrified thinking about the upload time of a 128MB memory stick..... " what ? how long would it take ? my CF cards load up so fast its untrue!!! LGW
53 Gerardo: I meant uploading via internet to an to online storage. Add to that, that I wouldn't know, where to upload 128MB of data on the net.... Gerardo
54 Skymonster: Problem with uploading to web storage whilst you're away is that if you go into an internet cafe, a lot of them will not be happy and may not even all
55 Shawn Patrick: Gerardo, I would not use any in-camera sharpening. It doesn't work well IMO, and you can always sharpen in PS and use the unsharp mask.... that's what
56 Lear45: I've been following this thread with interest after just 'upgrading' to a F707 a couple of weeks ago. Somebody above mentioned the Olympus C-2100uz as
57 EDIpic: Good to see you've joined the '707' clan Andy. I've ordered a Raynox DSC-1850 x1.8 tele-convertor from the main UK 'J' photographic store last week. I
58 LOT767-300ER: Gerry, Im planning on buying it also at the end of August...... Please post a thread about it when you get it and make some pix man.
59 Gerardo: Shawn Patrick: Don't worry! I didn't use the built-in sharpening tool yet, but was only wondering, if anybody else did. I'm very happy so far with Pho
60 EDIpic: Gerardo 1# You can't use the whole range of the tele-convertor. I know, that is expected with the B-300 or the Raynox version. I should've said Raynox
61 LOT767-300ER: Ok Gerry.... Ill be waiting to hear your review on the -1850Pro
62 Gerardo: Thanks very much, Gerry! The sample images look very good. Good luck!! Gerardo
63 Lear45: Gerardo Apologies, should have included this last time ... http://www.powerinnumbers.com.au/ It only has slots for CF and SM, but I got a CF adapter f
64 EDIpic: No problems guys. I've just discovered my wife will drag me kicking and screaming to Kerkyra/Corfu/LGKR next week for a short vacation/break....Damn!
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