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These Were Rejected, But I Think You'd Like Them.  
User currently offlineBrianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

I just got word today that some of my photos were rejected, but I was dissapointed with a couple of them because I really like the shots and I feel they're original, but here please take a look at them.

http://airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/DSC00303.jpg
- Thats the horizontal stabilizer on an Alaska 737-490, I could see it well from the very last row, 26. And we were flying over Arizona at the time, en route from PHX-SEA.

http://airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/DSC00316.jpg
- As we were approaching Seattle/Tacoma, runway 16 L, you can see it there in the distance. Also Mt. Rainier

http://airliners.net/addphotos/rejections/big/DSC00339.jpg
- The AlaskaAir.Com jet! They said this photo was crooked relative to the horizon. What?


I submitted 21 photos, and 9 are now in the hi-quality que, and I'm confident they'll be uploaded.

Thanks for checking them out.


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User currently offlineVulindlela From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2827 times:

The second one is beautiful. I like how it shows such a huge part of the city. Why was that one rejected? The first one I didn't really see anything special about, but if the 3rd one was for a tilted horizon then you could try it again.
-Kevin



"If you take everything I've accomplished in my entire life and condense it down into 1 day, it looks decent!"
User currently offlineBrianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2822 times:

Yeah I just liked the first one becuase I've never seen a shot looking over the horizontal stabilizer, its always over wing shots.

Yeah I was most dissapointed that the second one was rejected, it was rejected due to, "low estetic quality."

Is the third photo tilted too far clockwise or counter-clockwise? I couldn't tell.


User currently offlineVulindlela From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 474 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2818 times:

I think you should tilt it a little bit counter-clockwise. It is very harsh I think since there is no good view of the horizon, but that is how it looks to me.


"If you take everything I've accomplished in my entire life and condense it down into 1 day, it looks decent!"
User currently offlineBrianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2815 times:

Thats exactly what I thought, what horizon are they comparing it too?

But I will probably try to re-upload it.


User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2806 times:

Looks like you were using a Sony digital cam. Just out of curiosity, which one?

BTW, the second one should definetly be uploaded. If you adjusted the contrast, try uploading again, but don't make the contrast so high. You lost just a little bit of detail in the darker areas. The third is a little dark, and yes quite a bit crooked. But... try to fix that and see what happens.

-Shawn


User currently offlineBrianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

Yes it is a Sony cam, DSC-F707, how did you know?

Well the second one was rejected for "low estetic qualities" which means there is not enough airplane in it, so I don't know how much I can do about that, maybe I can appeal it.


User currently offlineAsgeirs From Iceland, joined May 2001, 516 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2789 times:

The first one is quite original but I don't find the background to be of much interest. That's probably why the rejected it.

The second one is pretty good but it might be a bit too dark.

Third one is nice too - don't quite know what they find wrong with it.


About Shawn guessing that you have a Sony digital camera - the filenames probably gave you away (DSC...jpg). Big grin






Reykjavik Aviation Photography - Just bring the aircraft to us and we'll photograph them! :-)
User currently offline5280AGL From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

Very nice photos, I especially love the aerial of Seattle. What I don't understand is how photos like that one get rejected yet ones like these get accepted?:


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Yikes!

--Chris--


User currently offlineBrianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2757 times:

Oh, Duh.... (DSC)

Thanks 5280AGL, Yeah I don't get it, I've actually noticed a drop in the quality of photos on airliners.net since they've changed over to the new screening process.


User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2748 times:

Yeah, I know what you guys are saying... I think it's becoming political, you know accept photos from the well established photographers and only accept from small-time dudes like me if the photo is REALLY REALLY good.  Sad

Yep, the filename confirmed it the Sony cam. I use the F707 as well. It's a beauty! Lots of people on here use it - it's great!

Well keep shooting and best of luck to you... you'll probably need it here!

-Shawn


User currently offline5280AGL From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2741 times:

I don't think it has to do with politics, really. I just think the screening process is inconsistent from one screener to another. One screener might find a shot completely acceptable and another may feel the opposite way. But what can you do? The process is not perfect. But, it does still baffle me how high sun, rear quarter, common aircraft, approach shots still find their way past the screeners, in great numbers from some photographers.

User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2735 times:

Brian,
The aerial of Seattle is great. I can pick out several landmarks. If you had a high-res scan of the image I might even be able to pick put a few friends' apartments!

William


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5219 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

Brian,

Very nice photos!!! Specially the 2nd one... also I like the 3rd!!! Too bad they were not accepted  Sad.

I´m with you 5280AGL, how come pictures like this get accepted... same aircraft, same REGO, and not showing anything spectacular....


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Photo © PolishAir42 - Chicago Aviation Photography



ghost77  Smile




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User currently offlineBrianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

Hey William,

I uploaded the aerial photo of Seattle, its a higher res, see if you can find your friends appartments!

Brian

http://briansphotos.tripod.com/seattlebig.jpg


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2701 times:

eeehm what about this rule:
No criticizing of other users or posts!
If you have a problem with another user in the forum or if you dislike some of the posts, use the "Suggest Deletion" button! If you don't like that, you can e-mail your humble administrators on the issue. You do not and I repeat NOT post a message on how you find the topic or user irrelevant/boring/childish or whatever. Topics dealing with other topics or users (and that includes yourself) will be deleted and the poster will risk being banned. Remember that a topic that is replied to is automatically moved to the top, so don't reply unless it's a worthwhile thread.

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/rules.main?confirm=no

Peter



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2696 times:

I think you got hosed on the third shot.

If anything try using the taxiway line in front of the aircraft for alignment, not the centerline for the gate that runs top to bottom but the left right line.

But there are several different lines there that aren't straight that could be used as the horizon.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2695 times:

Are you sure you're in the right thread??

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

Scratch that.

Use the fence behind the aircraft to set the horizon on the photo. It is visible on the right side of the aircraft.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineBrianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2691 times:

Thank L-188, I'll try the fence thing.

User currently offlineBrianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2686 times:

How's this?

http://briansphotos.tripod.com/dsc00339ii.jpg


User currently offlineEGFF From UK - Wales, joined Sep 2001, 2201 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

Nice shot of the Alaska Airlines, i think you were abit unfortunate there...
5280AGL and Ghost77 .... those pics were taken by a friend of mine, ok maybe there not the best there is but less of the critisizm huh  Insane
EGFF



All together or not at all
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2684 times:

Well, your image is hosted by Tripod.

Other then that, It look fine  Laugh out loud



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

Sorry, but this rule should be more strict. Who will look after this thread?


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2639 times:

Brian,

Can't really validate the reasons for your pic one and two at the moment as I'm staring at a small laptop screen. Photo three (AlaskaAir.com) needs a slight rotation counter clockwise, pretty much sorted in the second link you posted to it.


5280AGL said: What I don't understand is how photos like that one get rejected yet ones like these get accepted?
Ghost77 said:I´m with you 5280AGL, how come pictures like this get accepted... same aircraft, same REGO, and not showing anything spectacular....

Firstly to both of you, its very bad form to criticise other people's pictures on this forum, in fact its against the rules. I suggest that you are unlikely to get helpful responses if you attack other people's pictures.

Secondly, I can say that I was the third screener to HQ PolishAir42's pics that have been brought to attention in this forum. Bottom line is that they meet the quality criteria of the site, and two screeners before me had already judged them similarly so.


Shawn Patrick said: I think it's becoming political, you know accept photos from the well established photographers and only accept from small-time dudes like me if the photo is REALLY REALLY good

Shawn, PolishAir42 had his first pic accepted onto the site on 12th April this year (just over three months ago), so despite his pictures being commented on adversely here, how he could be regarded as "well established" is beyond me, other than the fact that he kept on trying and has achieved a result.

As for the process being political...  Nuts Meet the criteria, you get in, don't meet it, you don't. Instead of criticising other folks pictures, we should all get out more and strive to get quality results that are accepted.

Andy


25 Post contains images FUAirliner : Brian, your first photo is just boring with most parts of it filled with blue sky. The second one is really beautiful, but it has very little to do wi
26 Brianhames : Ok well, 37 images of one plane isn't a lot when you're talking about a quarter million photo database.
27 Wietse : Considering the huge amount of airplanes in the world and the relatively low number of 250000 photos, 37 is a huge number of photos
28 Post contains images Skymonster : FUAirliner said: Conclusion: all three rejections were perfectly correct and show the consistency of the screener crew Frank... Irrespective of your c
29 Post contains links and images LOT767-300ER : 5280 and Ghost. LOL stop whining. The photos may be boring but I think the quality is ok (I am a little biased since i shot them) I just take photos a
30 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : Just wanted to add that I dont think 3 months makes me well established.. And I do use a Sony F707 too
31 Post contains images Ghost77 : LOT767-300ER, I´m not whining at all, my point is that you have better shots too show!! As an example: You got creativity, but I prefer and I like mo
32 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : LOL you dont have to apologize mate. Those approach shots bore me also. But some of the common stuff like those AE ERJs and UAex CRJs, MD-80s, A320s a
33 5280AGL : LOT - I apologize if I offended you, I wasn't singling you out or anything, I was just using a couple of your photos as examples. The whole basis of m
34 Post contains images Ghost77 : I'll be waiting 4 ur pics from Alaska!!! ghost77
35 Wietse : See, that is the cool thing of this forum compared to Non av... People make up here!!! Wietse
36 Post contains images EGFF : *EGFF walks upto Wietse and hugs him* Ghost77, by apologising you showed your a man, not a weasel ... thanks EGFF
37 LOT767-300ER : Those shots bore myself so your not offending anyone lol. I just stopped on the side of the road while I was coming home and snapped a few...... Regar
38 Copa737 : Hey, I´m just going to say that, Before some of us start criticizing others you better look at you first and then If you have the authority, then cri
39 Copa737 : Sorry, I said that this have nothing so see with you guys but I´m wrong. Ghost77, you are my friend and you know I respect your work, but I cant acce
40 Post contains images LOT767-300ER : ""how come pictures like this get accepted... same aircraft, same REGO, and not showing anything spectacular.... " Diffrent view and OK quality?
41 Post contains images Ghost77 : Hello Felipe, You have told me that since we meet... to try new things, have different angles and upload more variety... also try to copy Rocafort´s
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