5280AGL From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 414 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1649 times:
The rotate feature in Photoshop is a very handy tool.
Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9444 posts, RR: 72 Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1616 times:
Cathay111 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 55 posts, RR: 18 Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1620 times:
Shot from below while climbing (and possibly turning). Just an illusion due to the position of the photographer in relation to the aircraft.......
There's plenty of these in the database!
Do you really think these aircraft are climbing this steep or banking that hard? Nope, it just looks that way as the photographer is shooting from an area "approximately" underneath the aircraft. You could upload 20 of these shots a day if you stood under the departure path for Runway 34R here in Sydney!
Alaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 17 Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1595 times:
A DC-9 could never climb like that! Thats some photo editing program.
Cfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1547 times:
As long as the horizon is not visible, you have quite a bit of leeway for a little creativity. Upside-down might be stretching things a little, however...
CactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 29 Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1503 times:
Actually DC-9's can perform a pretty steep climb. In that pic the plane is making a turn while performing a typical Diesel 9 climb. Nothing phony about the pic. Tom has a couple of other pictures just like that one in the database. Great stuff.
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1482 times:
I think that this topic should be locked - the original post was criticising a photograph that is in the database (you KNOW it wasn't stalling Setjet), and that's against the rules.
Setjet From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1086 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1476 times:
Andy, relax a bit.
I wasn't critisising anybody or anything, in my culture you just use sometimes a thing called "irony" to point something out.
As a matter of fact: You can't see if the picture is in level and I find the following discussion quite interesting (how sometime reality is different than what you see).
But please go ahead and lock this topic if you have to, and maybe the whole "photography forum" as well...(that was again irony!)
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1465 times:
Setjet said: in my culture you just use sometimes a thing called "irony" to point something out
Yes, and what were you pointing out? That ironicallly there's another photograph already in the database which was taken with the camera not level?
Well oh dear!
Point is we're out of "not leveled" discussions at the moment - we'll end up having the whole discussion about what constitutes level or not all over again, albeit against the sky rather than a hangar. This forum is in danger of going down hill quite rapidly what with all the carping and criticising that's been going on recently, and if it carries on much more then the folks on here who add genuine value when they can might just start to go away.
Planeboy From India, joined May 2005, 199 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1417 times:
I do not think this topic should be locked. Also, I do not believe Setjet -who started this topic did so for bad reasons. I admire Tom's photos - he is pretty much the only person other than I to submit photos from the wild, hilly, hillbilly state of West Virginia. However, I must say, the angle of this plane is kinda scary............................
Cicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1399 times:
The one thought that occurred to me when I was taking the picture was "what exactly is the threshold for the DC-9". - so thats not too far from SetJet's issue.
As it happens, I've seen DC-9s do a handful of impressive climbs in 30 years of watching them that didn't seem too dissimilar (from whatever my vantage point was)..but anyway, my feet were planted on flat ground, it was the steepest ascent of the day, and all the images of other aircraft from that day were from the same spot and none seemed to come out in such a way as I would question if I was tilting them -either at all, or not siignificantly.
Having said that, discussions of illusions, cropping, DC-9 performance limits, level cameras etc. are not without value. But the suggestion/assumption that I took an image of a plane against the sky, with no reference point, and then deliberately rotated it to an implausible or impossible angle, and uploaded it, is incorrect.
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