Cathay111 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 57 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3330 times:
Shot from below while climbing (and possibly turning). Just an illusion due to the position of the photographer in relation to the aircraft.......
There's plenty of these in the database!
Do you really think these aircraft are climbing this steep or banking that hard? Nope, it just looks that way as the photographer is shooting from an area "approximately" underneath the aircraft. You could upload 20 of these shots a day if you stood under the departure path for Runway 34R here in Sydney!
CactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3213 times:
Actually DC-9's can perform a pretty steep climb. In that pic the plane is making a turn while performing a typical Diesel 9 climb. Nothing phony about the pic. Tom has a couple of other pictures just like that one in the database. Great stuff.
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3175 times:
Setjet said: in my culture you just use sometimes a thing called "irony" to point something out
Yes, and what were you pointing out? That ironicallly there's another photograph already in the database which was taken with the camera not level?
Well oh dear!
Point is we're out of "not leveled" discussions at the moment - we'll end up having the whole discussion about what constitutes level or not all over again, albeit against the sky rather than a hangar. This forum is in danger of going down hill quite rapidly what with all the carping and criticising that's been going on recently, and if it carries on much more then the folks on here who add genuine value when they can might just start to go away.
Planeboy From India, joined May 2005, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3127 times:
I do not think this topic should be locked. Also, I do not believe Setjet -who started this topic did so for bad reasons. I admire Tom's photos - he is pretty much the only person other than I to submit photos from the wild, hilly, hillbilly state of West Virginia. However, I must say, the angle of this plane is kinda scary............................
Cicadajet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3109 times:
The one thought that occurred to me when I was taking the picture was "what exactly is the threshold for the DC-9". - so thats not too far from SetJet's issue.
As it happens, I've seen DC-9s do a handful of impressive climbs in 30 years of watching them that didn't seem too dissimilar (from whatever my vantage point was)..but anyway, my feet were planted on flat ground, it was the steepest ascent of the day, and all the images of other aircraft from that day were from the same spot and none seemed to come out in such a way as I would question if I was tilting them -either at all, or not siignificantly.
Having said that, discussions of illusions, cropping, DC-9 performance limits, level cameras etc. are not without value. But the suggestion/assumption that I took an image of a plane against the sky, with no reference point, and then deliberately rotated it to an implausible or impossible angle, and uploaded it, is incorrect.