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User currently offlineGeorge From Netherlands, joined Apr 2000, 115 posts, RR: 1
Posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 5120 times:

Hello fellow photographers,

First of all English is not my first language but I will try to explain a different point of view here.

My first photo was send in April 11 1999 and excepted the same day and it was crap!!!!

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Photo © George Polfliet

But A.Net had just started for a short period and they used almost any picture they could get, also Johan had the time to answer almost all the mails he got.

Times goes on and the site was growing and growing, the first complains where coming in the forum about a special list photographers who have special rights. In fact Johan used this list for the days he hadn’t much time and the stuff in this list was normally good quality.

Complaining goes on, the upload queue was too large. Screeners came in and were knocked down from the very first second they learned something new. Complaining goes on, how can you put more than 1000 pictures on the net in one day!!!! Nobody will see my picture now.
Higher standards was the answer for that problem. Queue grew, whining grew.
More screeners, more complains. Peter Unmuth gives a very good personal advice and he where immediate knocked down.

Sorry, but I’m sure that positive criticism will be highly appreciated by all members of the crew, but please DON’T SHOOT THE MESSANGER.

I think most of the screeners are more happy to smell the fuel and burning rubber in stead of judging your pictures, but someone has to do the job and they are there for you.

A.Net gives you dollars
A.Net gives you hits
A.Net gives nice contacts
A.Net gives sharing your hobby with thousands of people

So, I will thank all the members of the AIRLINERS.NET crew for the work they do for us photographers.

Happy shooting

George Polfliet

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User currently offlinePH-OTO From Netherlands, joined Mar 2002, 434 posts, RR: 28
Reply 1, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5064 times:

Nice note for a change in the forum, George
Five star rating from me

Martin Boschhuizen

Look very closely between the lines of this message, and you will see the captain beating up the jumpseater
User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4164 posts, RR: 52
Reply 2, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5067 times:

Nice thread. Thanks.  Big thumbs up

User currently offlineRayPettit From United Kingdom, joined May 2002, 608 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5042 times:

Its about time. Well done George.
Yes, we sometimes do see screeners apparently "at fault" in OUR OPINION. But have the rest of us got the staying power to be a screener and take all the flack?

They're only human like us, but whingers seem to overlook this fact. They have their own pictures and their own hobby, quite often a family as well as a job to hold down.

Next time your picture gets rejected for a reason you disagree with, or complain about the queue or whatever, THINK a bit before you spit it out.

I suspect that George is part of the silent majority, as there over 900 photographers in the queue and we've had nothing like that on these forums.


User currently offlineStaffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4991 times:

Great thread!

Thank you!


User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4953 times:

Right on George!


User currently offlineXenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4947 times:


At least a fresh blast in the forum...

 Big thumbs up


AirTeamImages -ATI-
User currently offlineJoe pries From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1957 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4943 times:

Its true, sometimes you have to take a step back and grasp all the positives here, they waaay outweigh the negatives. Johan and the screeners should indeed be commended.


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9823 posts, RR: 64
Reply 8, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4937 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

but we want to bitch and moan about stuff  Smile

okay, not really.

Airliners.net is a great website, great people, great photos.

Two thumbs up for everyone that contributes!

User currently offlineJasonm From Australia, joined May 2000, 238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4921 times:


Very well written  Smokin cool

Jason Milligan
Melbourne, Australia

User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4903 times:

Well said!

My thanks to all who have done the work, made the site what it is and have helped me along!


User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7459 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4899 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Great words! Finally another philanthropist amongst us!

Here's to truth in your words! CHEERS!

Forum moderator 2001-2010; He's a pedantic, pontificating, pretentious bastard, a belligerent old fart, a worthless st
User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 27
Reply 12, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4876 times:

Nice topic, George!!

First thing I thought, when I saw your pic, was: "What a ... (I'll better leave it blank Smile/happy/getting dizzy). But I still know, how my pics were 3 years back  Laugh out loud.

I think, if you had put in a recent shot, we would have one more positive aspect - at least for me - of Airliners.net: you can learn, how to photograph!! compare your SQ shot with for example:

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Photo © George Polfliet

BTW: five stars also from my side!


dominguez(dash)online(dot)ch ... Pushing the limits of my equipment
User currently offlineEBOS From Belgium, joined Jul 2001, 520 posts, RR: 43
Reply 13, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4856 times:

Great thread George!

Good to see there are still normal people around who are not frustrated Big grin

A.net gives fun indeed. It gives the opportunity to meet up with dozens of people who share the same interest. People who think positive... and enjoy life... That's one of the great things about A.net.

The screeners are doing a great job IMHO (but it doesn't make you popular if you say it in this forum Big grin )... spending hours a week on screening in their free time to keep A.net the number one aviation site with a constant flow of quality images. Last year on average 214 pics/day were added, last month 268, last week 331... can't see why people are moaning?....


An-225 stalker: 1 x LUX, 1 x EIN, 1 x DXB, 2 x SHJ, 3 x CGN
User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3204 posts, RR: 48
Reply 14, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4846 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

I join in the thank you chorus!


Once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been...
User currently offlineZander From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 611 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4849 times:

Great post George!


User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 41
Reply 16, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4838 times:

What else can be said!
You are da man, George! Big grin Big grin

We all have to be thankful that the screeners and Johan put up with us, our constant complaining, bitching and moaning.....not an easy task!

Well done guys and the site has come a long way

Vasco G.

User currently offlinePRM From Burkina Faso, joined Apr 2002, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4813 times:

Hear hear!! Well done George for getting the perspective back...


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3036 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (13 years 10 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 4808 times:

You have my support. Airliners.net has given me the opportunity to meet a lot of aviation-minded people and thanks to Airliners.net I've even had two jumpseat rides  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineGeorge From Netherlands, joined Apr 2000, 115 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (13 years 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 4710 times:

Hello again,

First of all, I forgot a few things in my first message, please let starting to introduce myself.
Name : George Polfliet
Address : Wateringen the Netherlands
Local Airport : Schiphol Amsterdam

Shooting 1 : Very boring stuff, I'm not an artist like some other people on this web, I'm what you can call a database shooter, takes one site off the plane with the registration and a view tries to other positions. That gives me the very low average of about 150+ views out of 3500+ photos in the database.
But I don't care about $$$ stuff nor I care about hits on my pictures.

Shooting 2 : The equipment, amazing, not digital(!) and agree with many other people here the main thing isn't the equipment that count.
Yes, I have a lot of rejections too especially the last time, but I don't care, I can handle this. I have simply don't have the time to improve them. So if there is a rejection so be it.

Then I forgot something about Peter Unmuth (Sorry Peter) but there where photographers complaining about the "standard mails" e.g. what is blurry, can you be more specific? And peter (and others) gives the answer.

Oh, eh. For the Dutch guys, what are you thinking if airliners net doesn't exists was there an Amsterdam Gettogether in the first place?

Finally I have to look to my topic a few minutes ago and I found 18(!) positive reactions. Thank you guys but remember I'm only the messenger now. Please give the support to the A.NET crew, they deserve it, not me.

Kind Regards, George Polfliet

User currently offlineSetjet From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Mar 2002, 1169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (13 years 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 4671 times:

Great stuff. Thanks George for the nice words and thanks A.net for all the good work!

User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1541 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (13 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 4671 times:

GREAT JOB you cool a.net people!!!
Mark Garfinkel

User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 53
Reply 22, posted (13 years 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 4670 times:


Nope, without A.net there wouldn't have been a Gettogether, and I wouldn't have met some great people. It gives you a chance to show your stuff, and I am proud to have 135 pics on here with an average of about 370.

We really have to get the positive vibes running again here... Wink/being sarcastic


Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4169 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (13 years 10 months 2 hours ago) and read 4649 times:

My interest for aviation went sky high when I joined A.net!!!
The interest were there before, but I was one of them who was at the gettogether last year, and it was a blast. That would never happen if it wasn't for Johan Lundgren and his www.Airliners.net

When in doubt, flat out!
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