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Upload Pages Takes Hours To Built Up, Bug?  
User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 46
Posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3180 times:

More or less a question for Johan and the a.net team!

I don't know if this just me or if others have the same problem.

I am exaggerating a little here but it can take up to 2 or more minutes before the http://www.airliners.net/addphotos is completly built up.

It does not matter if I am at home (ISDN 125 Kbit/s ) in the office (LAN) or
on connecting via the laptop (64 Kbit/s)

Thanks
Vasco G.






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User currently offlineToady From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3141 times:

Vasco, it's not just you. I have a 512 kbs line and it takes ages for me too.

User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3136 times:

Jup here too.....

Scanning and editing takes about the same time to wait for upload page to load

Wietse



Wietse de Graaf
User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

Yeah, i'm with you Vasco-even without the text @ top of page still takes ages!

LGW


User currently offlineAviationIvi From Germany, joined Feb 2001, 777 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3130 times:

same here!!

Ivica


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5490 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3116 times:

Ditto....and it takes longer for my pics to get uploaded and go to the "submit" page.

User currently offlineZander From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3110 times:

Same here too...everyone has that problem I guess.

Alex


User currently offlineFlpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2122 posts, RR: 30
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3120 times:

I agree, the actual upload page takes an eternally long time.

-Chris



Bonjour Chef!
User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

Hi!
I guess the time from 5.pm. European time till about 5 a.m. european time is the worst to upload pictures. Because most of the Americans are then online.

Its the same with the screening pages. They go pretty fast in the morning but in the late afternoon and in the evening the screening pages also take aaaaaaages to load.
Peter



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User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3073 times:

The whole site is at molasses speed. I had written it off to increased traffic and server overload. I assume the only fix is a server upgrade.



User currently offlineZander From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 610 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3084 times:

I don't think that the American people is the cause of it.
It's always that slow in my opinion and by the way isn't it more European people uploading to this site than Americans?
It feels like there is more photos from the airports in Europe than from America at least of those photos that have been accepted rather recently.

Alex


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3923 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3052 times:

Same here,

I have been experincing this problem since March. I made a post in refrence to this problem back then but no one responded. My problem however goes one step further, I keep getting dis-connected. Though I hate to say it, I am glad that some of you are having this problem as well, it means that there may be an incentive to fix whatever bug is hampering the uploads.

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineAirplanenut From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 654 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3042 times:

Think about it like this... even if the server was fast, the coding for the upload page includes all of the drop down menus and all of the options (every country/state/airport, every manufacturer/model type/airline code, every airline...) Those menues are made from thousands of lines of coding, so just for a computer to read them all would take a long time, regardless of server speed.

Jeremy



Why yes, in fact, I am a rocket scientist...
User currently offlineAndyhunt From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1306 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3039 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

The upload page takes a while, but everything else runs perfectly for me, at any time of the day.

Andrew



Full frame always beats post processing
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3026 times:

The page takes minutes to load, I see no difference between a 56K line, 1 1MB line and a 2MB line.
Given the amount of data that has to go over the line this is no surprise, so it has to be the script generating it.

Jeremy, your reasoning is at fault here.
The dropdowns shouldn't take more than a fraction of a second to generate, unless the database queries required and the database itself are extremely expensive and poorly performing.
The database being (probably) the same one the rest of the site is running on, that's unlikely to be the cause.
I've written many dynamic websites that are more complex than that page, performance was never an issue (if it took more than a few seconds, we'd go looking for improvements).
Even if the page is expensive to generate (in database operations/time), there are ways to improve the results such as caching the data so you don't do the database calls every time it loads (the data in this case doesn't change much, if you regenerate the page on the server every 24 hours and just show the cached page the rest of the time it would be more than sufficient).

Once loaded it works well (the upload itself is also relatively slow, but that is probably network related outside of the server) but the page generation needs some carefull tuning, even a factor 2 improvement would shave minutes of the loading time and I think a factor 10 might be possible.



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineJe89_w From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 2360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2996 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

Same here!!

User currently offlineAviator100 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2000, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2965 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
DATABASE EDITOR

Jwenting,

I think you should get in contact with Johan about the options and possibilities to improve the performances of the upload page. Your constructive suggestions could be welcome!

Ad (also suffering from long upload times)


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 17, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2940 times:

If this site were programmed in an environment I know I would do so Ad, believe me.



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2921 times:

Any word from the administrators on this issue?



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