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User currently offlineFabian Schuetz From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 168 posts, RR: 4
Posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4610 times:

Hello all,

as I haven´t posted here before let me introduce myself: my name is Fabian Schuetz and I am from Hamburg, Germany. I stopped taking pics of aircrafts many years ago but as I am working at Hamburg Airport and just bought a digital camera I thought it might be fun to take some shots at work and upload them at airliners.net.

Yesterday evening I had the opportunity to take some night shots of Khalifa B737-700BBJ N1011N ! What a amazing aircraft...

I used my Fuji Finepix S602 Zoom and Photoshop 6. I uploaded the pic and it was rejected for being to dark the first time. I tried to edit is a little with PS and uploaded it again. Now it says "too much JPEG compression".
As I do not know much about how to use Photoshop properly I don´t know what to do next.

Here is the shot of N1011N (not very sharp as it was freehand...) can anyone help me how to edit this ?

Thanks and best regards


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User currently offlinePlanespotter From Germany, joined Jul 2000, 106 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4569 times:

Hello Fabian,

i see low chances to get this accepted. As you alredy said it is unsharp, too dark, and pobably taken with too much compression. Photoshop wont help anymore...


User currently offlineFabian Schuetz From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 168 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4566 times:

Moin Stefan !

I do have some other shots which are a little sharper. But I don´t understand how to improve the darkness (at least it was at night  Wink/being sarcastic / lighten it up and what this "compression" think mean ?!?

How can I change the compression ?



User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4164 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

First of all:
Which camera setting did you use.
I would recommend to use the maximum file size and the highest quality setting. Well not neccessary the highest quality. I dont know if your camera is able to store RAW image files or TIFF. Just use the highest jpeg Quality (lowest compression).
About the darkness: may be you should use spot metering in cases like this and meter on the brightest point. I think matrix metering will get a reading which will cause some underexposure. The nose of the acft seems to fade away in your case.
About editing the picture:
As i use the english version of Photoshop i only know the english menu names.
Try to adjust the levels to make it a bit brighter. And do not simply save the edited picture. Use "Save as" you will get a dialouge window then where you can adjust the quality of the saved file. Use the highest possible value.

User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4547 times:

Shame, its a rare and beautfiul aircraft


User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 813 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4527 times:

Darkness - this is best fixed using the "levels" control in PS.

There are 3 pointers below a histogram:

1 - move the right and left pointers so they are aligned with the start and end of the graph. This ensures maximum contrast and optimum black and white points.

2 - move the middle pointer right or left to brighten/darken the mid tones.

Compression - when a picture is saved as a jpg, a certain amount of compression is usually applied - this results in smaller files, but can cause image deterioration. PS offers you a level of compression when saving. Always use 12 (maximum quality).

One final problem - angle! Use "rotate" in PS to get that horizon level!



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlineFabian Schuetz From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 168 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4477 times:

Thanks to all of you for your helping hints !

With the special help of Peter Unmuth the picture finally made it into the database ! Thanks very much !

Best regards,


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User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4469 times:


I'm really pleased to see you got your picture in the database - its a good night shot of a new subject. And welcome back to aviation photography!

I do not wish to rain on your parade as it were, but you should be aware that the picture is a bit soft, especially around the forward end. Several of the screeners noticed that including myself, but the picture was marked as high quality because it is of a rare subject that wasn't in the database.

Rare subjects always have lower quality criteria that "common" subjects. This is not to take anything whatsoever away from your picture and please keep on submitting pictures, but please understand the guidelines and don't get discouraged if similar pictures of more common subjects get knocked back.


User currently offlineFabian Schuetz From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 168 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (13 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4464 times:

Hi Andy,

thanks for your reply. I do fully understand that this picture only made it into the database as it is a new aircraft and perhaps an uncommon one as well. I wouldn´t dare to submit a picture of a Lufthansa B737 with the same quality you can be sure  Wink/being sarcastic
As I got my new camera on Monday last week I am still not very into its handling so this shot(s) were taken in the automatic mode. I am sure the next time I can figure out how to find correct settings for doing such a nightshot.

And please - don´t welcome me back to aviation photography  Wink/being sarcastic I already spend much to much time in collecting safetycards so I am really not planning to spend any additional time in "spotting" *lol*

Thanks again,


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