CactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 29 Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3751 times:
Dmitry,
You cannot be serious.
The plane is damn near about to break the sound barrier, that's what so special.
Serge From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1989 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3744 times:
Its a great photo. Its actually one of the photos I think about when thinking of breaking the sound barrier (it was my wallpaper for a little while too).
Wietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 57 Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3510 times:
Dont get cocky with me. Did I diss the photographer? No. Then don't diss me.
Any other shot that is composed like that would be rejected. Understandably.
But because of the events happening on the photo, it is accepted.
It really isn't that difficult to achieve shots like this. Only thing that gives problems is the focus. You just have to be lucky enough to get the effect. (weather, timing etc.) (timing isn't up to the photographer)
I've just shot formula 1 shots with a simple 5.6 lens and 100ASA film, the results were very clear and sharp. (cars were at less than 25 meters at full accelerating speeds)
Brianhames From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 795 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3495 times:
Wietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 57 Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3435 times:
Brian, believe it or not, we are saying exactly the same thing here! Perhaps my way of saying it wasn't too clear.
Really, I love the shot! Absolutely. But Dmitry asked what was so special about it , so I pointed out all the weaknesess. (composition, just as you did!)
And no, that ramp shot isn't interesting, I don't open it.
Res From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 417 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3347 times:
guys, you DO know pressure build-up causes this effect when it is moist out as well....right? You could be going a mere 200 knots and see this. So, catching a plane breaking the sound barrier? That could be a challenge, considering your chances. But catching pressure build-up in damp air, thats pretty frequent for all i know. Both look the same also.
-Tim
Wietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 57 Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3313 times:
What you are seeing in the picture is not simple condensation, although it is the same principle on which condensation works. (higher airpressure causes moist to form water drops)
What you are seeing is the transsonic cone (between subsonic and supersonic) Because the aircraft is generating sound waves that are slower than the aircraft itself, an enormous cone of high pressure formes over the aircraft.
Aer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1523 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3301 times:
Taken from "Res'" Profle
Location: Scottsdale, AZ... College = Embry Riddle Aeronautical University - Prescott, AZ
Either you are completely right or you seriously need to read your textbooks again !
Martin
25 Wietse: Ok jan, thought the "oh is that so" part was about my post... w
26 Res: ok, since no one seems to believe me, I wont retaliate. Im just saying, i saw a picture of a b-52....yes a b-52 witha HUGE cloud forming around it (li
27 Jderden777: so ANYWAY, back to the topic.... it's a cool shot whether or not the shot was taken as the B-1 approached the sound barrier, it is still an awesome sh
29 Res: I'm not saying the B-1 did not break the barrier, I'm just saying the condensation cloud does not have to form while breaking the barrier.
30 Carlos Borda: Res- If you think that B52 shot is believable then I guess you'll believe this one too. ~Carlos
31 Res: boy that makes you think Maybe the B-52 isn't real. But planes dont HAVE to be breaking the sound barrier to form that cloud. Look at the pics from Zu
32 Thom@s: Carlos, hehe funniest pic I've seen in a long time. Thom@s
33 Alaskaairlines: Hey guys. Well you are right, it is interesting because its about to break the sound barrier. But, I don't see anything else that interesting. Well it
34 Jan Mogren: Dmitry, using that logic, what shots are special? /JM
35 Sabena 690: I agree, Jan. So you are really not joking DMitry? No joke?! Well, show my some special shots than, maybe you can convince me with your theorie than /
36 Alaskaairlines: Well Jan. I guess it is a special shot, but I didn't think it would get added to the Editors Choice. But over all it's interesting to see a plane capt
37 EGGD: btw. its not ACTUALLY breaking the sound barrier right here, I don't think thats legal at airshows... I've read that its just the pressure changing ar
38 Res: Thanks, EGGD nice to see someone else agreeing with what i say.
39 Jan Mogren: You guys seem to be confusing the condensation over wings and fuselage due to lift, like when pulling G's, with the stuff seen on this pic. In a high
40 Skymonster: btw. its not ACTUALLY breaking the sound barrier right here, I don't think thats legal at airshows... How do you know its not breaking the sound barri
41 Sudden: GREAT photo!!! You can actually say that some parts of that B-1 have passed subsonic. The pilot have leveled out the speed, so the A/C stays subsonic/
42 Res: Sawweeet. that video is awesome. I guess i didnt realize the cloud sticks around for that long.
43 FACT: some guy emailed me last month with the following link to a similar pic taken at the same event (he thought it was the same, but I could see they were
44 Carlos Borda: Just wanted to add a little fact here to this thread that some people might be forgetting... that B1 photo is in the "Editor's Choice" section for exa
45 Tommys: Gregg doesn't read the forum too often (To busy taking pics!) So I sent him a note regarding the post. Maybe he will reply... I will just say that it
46 Alaskaairlines: You are 100% right, Carlos. Its up to him and his likings. -Dmitry
47 Sudden: Res, I will not flame you, but I'm a little surprised that you didn't know this, as you are studying at the Embry Riddle Aeronautical University!? Thi
48 NCTR: Hey Tommy, thanks for the heads up on this thread. I took this photo down in Fla. at Pensacola Beach. The B1B was about 500 feet off shore and perform
49 Globemaster: Very nice shot. I'm not a bip photographer but I can imagine how difficult it is to make a shot like that. http://www.globemaster.de/airextreme/jets.h
50 Res: Its been a while since i updated my user info ...my bad. I'm studying there next year. Reson? Ill be saving about $30,000. I'm studying at Yavapai Col
51 ExitRow: I do believe the B1B in this photo is actually transonic Gregg, did you hear a big, loud boom? That's usually a dead giveaway.
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