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Now This Photo Is Really Tweaked Up!  
User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5772 times:

Hello all!

This photo was really changed in PS or something like that, what would you all say? I mean it looks great, but...........you know the rest.  Smile


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Photo © Tom Turner



-Dmitry

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User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5668 times:

Not regarding the 'classic' editing work (sharpening,contrast,...) why should this one be so special that it must have been edited in PS?

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5654 times:

Nope, you must not notice. Look at the angle of climb! There is now way a loaded 747 can do that. Some people know how to use there rotating features!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

-Dmitry


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5671 times:

Well, AFAIK, this shot hasn't been rotated at all in PS. This is probablt the way this picture was taken. Just try to look at it as if your the photographer and the aircraft is passing quite low, just next to you. If you take a picture then, it can turn out like this one.

So, basically, don't try to look at it as if the ground is just underneath of it and completely level, because it isn't. You know, you see an aircraft, follow it in your viewfinder and snap some shots. It's always possible that some of them turn out like this one. It can give you the impression of a 747 with an unusually high AOA, but in fact the aircraft is just flying over, in its usual AOA.

Ivan



Ivan Coninx - Brussels Aviation Photography
User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5649 times:

Possible.......but I want to hear the opinion of the other guys!

-Dmitry


User currently offlinePUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4163 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5619 times:

Wow Dmitry finally a shot you dont like Big grin
I dont think its altered in terms of rotation. Its just the combination of climbing and turning which makes the angle look very steep.
Its the same here:

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Photo © Peter Unmuth - Vienna Aviation Photography



Peter



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User currently offlineZebfly2 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5616 times:

I'm familiar with the t/o and landings @ JFk and it appears that this pic was taken near the Beach Channel area in the evening. If so, then runway 31L was used and if you are familiar with that area, then a pic taken at this angle is possible. Would those of you who are familiar with JFK care to comment?


Educate your children before others mis-educate them!!!
User currently offlinePRM From Burkina Faso, joined Apr 2002, 351 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 5607 times:

Yeah Peter is spot on - definately not rotated - and I've seen other threads about this before - I'm sure Tom Turner would be getting too tired to do all that rotating since many of his shots show exactly the same a/c attitude from take-off at the same airport.....  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5584 times:

Dmitry, never been under the flight path of an aircraft when taking off?

Try it, it looks like every plane is a rocket climbing.

Luis
P.S. It all depends from your prespective point.


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5580 times:

Wow Dmitry finally a shot you dont like

Don't forget the B1, Peter  Big grin

Shot is not rotated I think.

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlineTappan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1538 posts, RR: 41
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5527 times:

Looks PERFECT to me. Nice late afternoon/evening light. no rotation in Photoshop- NOTHING
Mark G


User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5488 times:

Hm, must have been my tired eyes last night!

Sabena 690, you sure are agresive about that B1!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

-Dmitry


User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5477 times:

No, I think this photo is "tweaked up.":


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I mean, how did those mountains get on top of the plane? There is NO WAY that small plane could support the weight of a whole mountain range! That's insane!

This must be a composite. Or manipulated in Photoshop. Fake. Simple as that. Fake, fake, fake, fakity fake fake. And since I think so, I insist we all talk about how fake it is, here in the court of public opinion without ever consulting the photographer.

 Yeah sure


User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5477 times:

No, I was only joking, Dmitry  Big grin

Regards,
Frederic


User currently offlineCarlos Borda From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 538 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5458 times:

Zebfly2 hit the nail right on the head before.... but just to confirm it too, the proof is in the pudding on the map below.
X spot is where the shot was taken from and the yellow trail is the path for rwy 31L departures...



Dmitry- you gotta mellow out a little, there's no PS conspiracy theory going on here. I know Tom well... that's not his style.

~Carlos

Zebfly2 writes:

>>I'm familiar with the t/o and landings @ JFk and it appears that this pic was taken near the Beach Channel area in the evening. If so, then runway 31L was used and if you are familiar with that area, then a pic taken at this angle is possible. Would those of you who are familiar with JFK care to comment?<<


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4006 posts, RR: 26
Reply 15, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5412 times:

Once again when someone can't figure out how a pic was made, the 'Photoshoped' charge is levied. Why must people make their suspicions here as opposed to addressing the photographer themselves ?

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineZebfly2 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5388 times:

Thanks for the confirmation and affirmation Carlos. I may not be a world class photographer like most of you who post your pics here, but I do know my S@#T when it comes to JFK since I spent close to 30 years living near JFK. Keep up the good work Tom!!


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User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5381 times:

Take a look at all his photos, he has many like that. I don't think they were tweaked. Chris Sheldon and Joe Pries have a few shots like that as well.

User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 5368 times:

I agree with you guys now. Didn't mean to make this such a thread.

And Exitrow, you need a lot of rest! Just easy off there, I didn't really notice Toms shots earlier.

Talk to you all later,

Dmitry


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5365 times:

Well Dmitry, think twice before posting.

Luis


User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5350 times:

And Exitrow, you need a lot of rest!

Dmitry,
My point is simple.

Don't dish out criticism if you cannot take it yourself. You've started a lot of threads lately that have been rather critical and flat out break forum rules and ettiquite.

To publicly question the authenticity of images with virtually no valid proof and ask for some sort of consensus is just flat out disrespectful. I was hoping to illustrate that by reversing the roles in my exaggerated post. It doesn't feel very good does it?

Ease back on the throttle young man. You'll be glad you did.


User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5327 times:

Hey I get you guys. I am ready to take all the criticism there is out there. Thats how I got started with this fun hobby! I didn't start this thread to put down anyones photo's.

So lets end it on this.

Hey Tom, those are some sweet shots there! And I got it figured out, they aren't adjusted in PS for rotation. Keep em comin.

-Dmitry


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5276 times:

Dmitry, forget my last message please. It was written after a long night of beers and beers.

Luis


User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5240 times:

Sure Luis its erases from my vision. Ever hear of "don't drink and type"  Smile/happy/getting dizzy? Just joking Luis.

Have a good day!

-Dmitry


User currently offlineJoe pries From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1957 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (12 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5224 times:

oh man, ive got a delta 777 shot coming up and i have a feeling im gonna be getting absolutely SLAMMED- im worried already  Big grin

Joe


25 Post contains images Alaskaairlines : Upload it Joe, you won't get any slamming. I hope. Not from me atleast. -Dmitry
26 Carlos Borda : I've seen the RAW file Joe's talking about and it's legit, but unfortunately it's going to be questioned by some of the armchair screeners on here....
27 Post contains images Glenn : Look Joe don't worry about it. I'll just reject it before it gets online. I'll implement the BAD Debate reule
28 Joe pries : ok i'll upload it tonight but i have a feeling that there's gonna be a firestorm brewing. Joe
29 Alaskaairlines : Can't wait to see it Joe. -Dmitry
30 Glenn : Joe, I expect to see it in my Inbox when i get home in 4 hours.
31 Post contains images Joe pries : ok i just uploaded it and am still uploading others as i write this.. Joe
32 PUnmuth@VIE : Carlos: armchair screeners ???????? Peter
33 Post contains links and images Yevgeny : Dmitry this picture was taken from same spot View Large View MediumPhoto © Yevgeny Pashnin and I am not rotate a pic. Yevgeny Pashnin
34 Post contains links Carlos Borda : Hey Peter- the term is pretty familiar on this side of the pond and is often used around here as "armchair quarterback." The guys (fans) who talk the
35 Alaskaairlines : Privet Yevgeny! Kak dela? Great photo! I now know its not fake and am fasinated by them! Hope to see you in NYC wit another grerat guy in the middle o
36 Post contains images Sudden : Carlos Borda, that map you posted must be fake, fake, fake. Anyone can see that the light is not correct, and it must have been rotated as well. A tru
37 Post contains images Mikephotos : Sudden, I actually created that map with Paint Shop Pro so it is FAKE hahahahaha just like all the photos of 31L departures Michael
38 Post contains images Carlos Borda : Around here that's what we affectionally call a "Mike Job" You'd be surprised what he can do with PSP... ~Carlos Sudden writes: >>Carlos Borda, that m
39 Post contains images Sudden : Mikephotos, I call your bluff, and say that the Paint Shop Pro you use, IS FAKE!!!
40 Post contains images Alaskaairlines : Mike's the tech support for the Newyorkers (spotters)! -Dmitry
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