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What Are "bad Borders"?  
User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 3532 times:

Hi all

I had a few rejections, saying "Please remove the borders that partly or in full surrounds these photos". The personal comment of the screener was: "in white border along the blue areas only."

What and where exactly are these borders? What can I do?
The pics in question:
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=b744_jal_ja8081_28-09-02_7.jpg
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=a320_edw_hb-ihx_28-09-02_2b.jpg
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=a320_lx_hb-ijs_28-09-02_3.jpg

Thanks and kind regards
Gerardo


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User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3463 times:

No idea. Probably lack of other reasons for reject  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlinePhotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2729 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

I downloaded the first photo to have a look at it in Photoshop.

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=b744_jal_ja8081_28-09-02_7.jpg

When I magnified it to 1600% in Photoshop, you can see that the outermost row of pixels (ONE single Pixel width ONLY) is actually lighter (not really white) than the adjacent rows. Not sure why this is so. The fix would be to crop each image by a single row, or two pixels in width and height. Then re-submit the photos.

But at normal viewing sizes, this is Barely Visible on my monitor.

Steve


User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 3, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

Thanks Steve, I'll try this.

I hope, we don't have to axpnd to more than 1600% from now on  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Gerardo



dominguez(dash)online(dot)ch ... Pushing the limits of my equipment
User currently offlineJoe pries From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1957 posts, RR: 53
Reply 4, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3410 times:

Gerardo,
the quality of these shots is extremely high. appeal it to johan and he'll probably add em asap.

Joe


User currently offlineJoe pries From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1957 posts, RR: 53
Reply 5, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

actually the jal 744 is a big crooked horizon so maybe not so fast  Big grin

Joe


User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3350 times:

Nah Joe,
just the rwy. Lamp posts are straight.  Wink/being sarcastic
/JM



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User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3344 times:

Thanks to all.

Yep, after I saw those borders (just for the memory: it's one pixel...) I went thru some uploaded pics as well and have found several pics, not just mine, with that border.

If you want to avoid it, first resize to an imagesize 2 pixels wider and higher, than the end size (example: 1026X770 for pics with a endsize of 1024x768) and resize again at the end after all your work on the pic.

I don't know, if this happens with all graphic softwares. I use Photoshop LE, for those interested.

And BTW: YEP, Jan is right, I tried to get those lamp posts straight, hoping, the result would be ok  Smile/happy/getting dizzy.

Regards
Gerardo



dominguez(dash)online(dot)ch ... Pushing the limits of my equipment
User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3325 times:

Gerado,

I believe it is something that happens only when you rotate images (or maybe when you crop images) - something in PhotoShop that does this - as on my own recently uploaded images such a border only shows on photos I know I have rotated.

Andy


User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3314 times:

One reason more to try to shoot straight fotos  Laugh out loud

Seriously: thanks for that hint. This will help!!

Regards
Gerardo



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User currently offlinePlaneboy From India, joined May 2005, 199 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3316 times:

Nice shots - don't know about the borders - see a few jagged edges however - which are not too jagged - but...

User currently offlineTomh From United States of America, joined May 1999, 960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (11 years 10 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3288 times:

I didn't see a border in your JAL 747 shot, Gerardo. I also received such a rejection, and I didn't see a border in my shot either. I use Photoshop Elements, and I believe I had rotated the image a little.

The extra step of going to 1026 x xxx and then downsizing is going to be time consuming-do we really need to do this to get a shot with a near-invisible problem accepted?

Screeners: How can this be a problem if we can't see it? If the border you object to is one pixel wide and barely visible what problem does it pose to A.net?


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