Cathay111 From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 55 posts, RR: 14 Posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5935 times:
This has to be one of the most personally offensive rejections I have ever had come my way. I uploaded this shot as it was the last I took on the 13th October before I was called to rush to hospital to witness the birth of our first child. It sat in the HQ queue for 2 days (no prob with that and I sincerely thank those who viewed it as HQ) and is rejected for bad common.
Have a look at these shots added from Sydney over the last 2 weeks or so:-
I have re-uploaded the shot and I hope someone can find it in their hearts to add the shot. I've given up adding shots of the "Special Three" planes but this one just had far too much meaning to me so I decided to upload it. And the comment clearly noted this. I assure you that there will be no more Special coloured QF aircraft uploaded at this end ever again.
It is disheartening given that in the last week I've seen more Australian "baddoubles" than ever before. I guess I got the wrong end of the stick.
For those with any interest here is the shot in question.
BO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2771 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5857 times:
Congratulations Craig on your first child. I still have to wait at least 200 years before I am ready to have my first wee-one!
Or I can allow my damm teenage hormones and testerone levels to conquer me and my horny desires with the wild assortment of 90% hot chicks at my school high. I know I'll be getting good grades soon!
Anyways, that shot is indeed nice. Shame there wasnt any sun that time.
I also get quite a bit of badcommons/baddoubles and sometimes it does get to a point where it starts to piss me off.
Like: if I went down to SYD and hammered a nice shot of F1, or Wunala and to get a reject for that reason, I'd feel bad that I couldnt show MY Pictures of these planes to the audience.
However, Keep it flowin Craig, you still got tons of drool worthy stuff down under which millions of a.net users want to see.
Oh By the way, do you have a name for your newly born daughter?
Scooter From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 863 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5744 times:
Congrats on the new addition to the family!
Regarding the shot - while nicely composed, it's a common aircraft shot under dull conditions. While the timing may be important to you, it isn't to everyone else. Sorry, but that's the way the world turns.
Again, nice shot, but we've seen MUCH better from you. I'd forget it and move on if I were you...
N178UA From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1729 posts, RR: 65
Reply 11, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5691 times:
Congrats for the new kid (to Anna too!)
But these days I think it is a bit weird? to see which shots get accepted or rejected, I have one Wunala shot in your quoted link, to be honest I was quite suprised, because it wasn't that top from my standard but I got on anyway, luckily.
Here I thought my VH-OJC upload 10 days ago that may get on:
But it got rejected same reason as yours, well may be is not fair, but I feel sorry about your rejections. On the other hand, I think you also have quite a fair bit of OJB, OJC in the DB, can I say this if ok with you? I decided I am not going to upload any more those Qantas special plane because it is getting too hard and common topic unless I have a reason to. I have no idea how the other Wunala shots get on, I am a bit surprised that photoid 281508 and 281340 get on, may be they have better scan, to me your shot (OJC but different topic to OJB) are better their wunalas in a indirect comparision. Thats just my standard of judging I don't want to cause any upsets of course.
But I think any creative shots enough will still get on with less pain.
Andyhunt From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1306 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5608 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW PHOTO SCREENER
Congrats on the birth. You're going to have a great time raising a kid, mine is nearly four and the joy he brings to me everyday is immeasurable.
Regarding this thread, in the interests of transparency, let me explain the reasoning behind the rejection.
1) Your photo was initially HQ'd be one of the screeners, but with comments. Something along the lines of "not sure about this, wouldn't this be better as a forum thread to announce a birth" Then after that, it was put on 2nd opinion by a few more screeners asking similars questions, mentioning the fact that "apart from the comment, the shot was nothing special" "it is a badcommon" and the like.
2) As mentioned in this thread, plenty of people get rejections for badcommon. Normally this would happen when you submit a marginal shot, especially if it is a sky shot (i.e. sky for background). The comment is meant to enhance the description of the photo. At a push, it could also be used to announce say, 500th upload of photos, as this is aviation, site or photo related. But to be honest, your photo was judged on the photo, not on the somewhat unrelated comment. We have to be fair and apply the badcommon rule also fairly. And from what I am reading, other forum members also agree with the rejection.
So based on the fact that (1) It was HQ'd with reservations and (2) We judge a photo on its photographic merits, it was rejected.
So I hope that you understand the reason for the rejection. I am sorry that you feel it was "one of the most personally offensive rejections" you have ever had, it was not meant that way. But with what has been said above, I am sure that now you understand why.
Gerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 5588 times:
First of all, congratulations to your daughter, Craig!! You will have many more special times with her, not to forget your first spotting days with her.
To be honest, the picture itself - without the comment - is somewhat a bodercase. The bad weather and a little bit of "softness" are the first negative points I see. But nevertheless, there are pics recently added with the same grey background and the same softness.
Just a personal opinion: Airliners.net's success is based on the submissions of the different photographers. A little bit of "heart" - as you say - and the upload of this pic into the database wouldn't definitely do any harm to Airliners.net, but give something back to on the top photographers on this website.
Just my 0.02 Swiss Francs
dominguez(dash)online(dot)ch ... Pushing the limits of my equipment
JetTrader From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 586 posts, RR: 11
Reply 15, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5556 times:
Congratulations on the new arrival. As others have said...1. you'll be too busy by far for the next 18 years to worry much about rejections here...and 2. she'll bring you untold joy and happiness - I know my two little angels do
So...why not print this shot and frame it, date it and dedicate it to your little girl. You have the shot you promised yourself, your wife and daughter and no angst over what anyone else thinks. That's what I'd do.
I have to agree with others that ultimately it is image quality that counts and not sentiment. Rejections are soon forgotten - you'll remember that day forever!
Ljungdahl From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 910 posts, RR: 35
Reply 18, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5428 times:
Congrats to the baby, Craig!
...and this means that for the rest of your life you can call yourself a F-A-T-H-E-R...
...I understand your feelings completely, I also shot a plane the day my first child was born, but my photo is very similar to this one, shot by my friend Kjell Nilsson on that particular day, many years ago...
ScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5315 times:
This is really great to hear as from you got a new baby girl!! And that is very nice name of the your daughter as for herself and please regards sent me a pictures as for me with the all of your wife, and baby, too! The a.net want to see it with the pictures as for the baby girl. So anyway, I'd will talk with you soon!!
P.S. Craig, that you are very good best friends with me into the a.net by myself for the long time. Maybe you able can come into USA to see me in Florida of Ft. Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport. So later!!