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User currently offlineMigman From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 91 posts, RR: 10
Posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5752 times:

Iam in a bit of a dilema as the this photo looks a bit ... well fake (sorry Air Nikon)

Its just the engine in the photo (it dont look like its ment to be there)

any thoughts


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 Nuts
migman

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User currently offlineJoe pries From United States of America, joined May 2000, 1957 posts, RR: 54
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5714 times:

Migman, get some cover you are about to be slammed on here  Big grin

Joe


User currently offlineSqwert17 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2002, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5695 times:

Here we go again.Some people never learn.

User currently offlineMigman From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 91 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5688 times:

learn what ?
i am just pointing out what i think is mabey a Fake/Super imposed photo, and im just intrested in what others think of the photo




 Nuts
migman


User currently offlineAtco From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 277 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5689 times:

This is a joke isn't it?


AirTeamImages
User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5685 times:

Where chould the engine be if not outside the window!?
Inside the A/C!?

Yes, you chould really buckle up, cause this will be a "bumpy" ride for you Mr. Migman!






When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5681 times:


Why should it be fake. It looks perfectly normal.


User currently offlineMigman From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 91 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5668 times:

ever thought the photo might have never inculded a engine !!!
just a thought but where is the other engine of the 747-422?

 Nuts
migman


User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 8, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5668 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

looks okay by me! I doubt AirNikon has the time to fake a photo, that guy is EVERYWHERE.

User currently offlineTsentsan From Singapore, joined Jan 2002, 2016 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5654 times:

just a thought but where is the other engine of the 747-422?

Gosh, heard of a ZOOM lens?



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User currently offlinePhotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2629 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5655 times:

Silly people.....

Then engine is real, it's the ground that is fake. Big grin

It was actually shot while in orbit around the planet Vulcan. Big grin

In other words.......

For god's sake... get a life and stop this ad-nauseum accusations of fakes on A.net.

thank you
Steve


User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5652 times:

Ok,

basic lesson comming up!
The wings are not pointing straight out from the A/C, but are swept back, so take a wild guess where no.1 is.
I just gave you the answer, so lets see if you can bust this quiz.



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineMigman From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 91 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5641 times:

well many pepole in my office have had a loook and think the engine is super imposed on to the photo.
because of the fact the of the cowling would have some light in or more on it ?


 Nuts
migman


User currently offlineAtco From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 277 posts, RR: 24
Reply 13, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5640 times:

Well there we go then.......

It's official ! Everyone in the office (Who I am sure are World leaders in aviation photography) says its fake........then it simply must be.

What fools we are here, and we thought it was real........well the office has spoken, so now us beginners know better.
Thanks for showing us the light.

Please, please for God's sake stop this.

This thread has gone way beyond ridiculous.



AirTeamImages
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5635 times:

I'd hate to think what would happen if the engine wasn't there!!!  Nuts

User currently offlineSudden From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 4130 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5633 times:

EGGD....

the engine is not there cause it's a fake.
Everybody at the office says so.  Big grin



When in doubt, flat out!
User currently offlineMigman From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 91 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5615 times:

atco for a man of you stature i thought you would have more of a less childish attuide!
all i am doing is just voicing others veiws that dont have access to this discussion.


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5486 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5607 times:

It's real. He zoomed in a bit, and there is no light on the engine, because the sun is on the other side of the aircraft.

User currently offlineB737-700 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5611 times:


Do you think these here will convince you that there is a reason why you do only see one engine ?


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User currently offlineChris28_17 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1439 posts, RR: 10
Reply 19, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5607 times:

So what, he's wrong it's not fake.

i have no problem with people posting "fake pictures" accusations on here, as long as it can easily be proven otherwise then what's the big deal? He was very respectful in his post as well, and i kinda like knowing someone is keeping us in check. I get accused of my pics being "fake" via email all the time, who cares?? i dont send them a nasty email telling them "how dare you accuse me of that!"


Please, please for God's sake stop this.
This thread has gone way beyond ridiculous.


no it hasnt. So what?? it's not fake, the guy "migman" thought it was and he was wrong, im sure he can be a man and accept it.

WHAAAAAHHHH  Crying

get over it

chris


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3860 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5599 times:

Sigh.........here we go again!

Yo Migman (Jamie), instead of accusing one of A.Net's more respected photographers of faking in a public forum, why not e-mail him first and ask about the photo in question? Did that ever cross you mind ? Perhaps you were thinking that you were going to make a big splash here and expose an evil 'faker'. If so well you are about find out the hard way that making such acqusations will quickly blow up in your face as a few others implied earlier in this thread.

Making charges of faking a photo without proof is a big NO-NO here and can get both parties into trouble! Just because you can not figure out how a pic was made does not give you the all clear to accuse anyone of faking anything! Especially someone with AirNikon's reputation and history.

You appear to be new to this particular forum (I suppose most of your other 62 posts were elsewhere), however ingnorance is not an acceptable substitute for common sense. You have not made a very good first impression with many here and short of a formal apology to AirNikon it may be sometime before you are trusted by the regular participants here. Not a great way to introduce yourself to the Photographers forum!

Thomas



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User currently offlineMigman From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 91 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5605 times:

ever thought it was possibal that the photo never had a engine in it!!!
and that just mabey a engine would look good ?!?!?!

well sorry i upset all you "pro" photographers  Yawn and one of ya buddies

but the statment of mine of the "office" is undermined by the word THINK ie a persons perception or perspective


User currently offlineAtco From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 277 posts, RR: 24
Reply 22, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5596 times:

Migman,

No sir, what you are doing is accusing someone of planting a fake photo in a very public way when it very obviously is not fake.

Then not content with hearing from some very knowledgable people, you continued this nonsense based on the opinions of the office, when frankly a very large line should have been drawn under this whole discussion.

So, sorry you felt the response was childish, but it was appropriate for the level of discussion.

Now please accept this is not a fake photo and leave it at that?



AirTeamImages
User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5597 times:

Is this thread for real??
/JM



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User currently offlineLOT767-300ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 6 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5586 times:

"Is this thread for real??"

I asked myself the same question Jan.


25 Migman : ok sorry i spoke on a PUBLIC forum about my PUBLIC view just sums up some people in the spotting circles what has been said on here! thats all i am go
26 Alaskaairlines : Just don't make theads like this in the future, these usually go hard! AirNikon would never do a thing like that! He has the most uploads in the db. -
27 AirNikon : For the record, ID# 284384 and 283701 (shown in an earlier post) were both taken from UA744 N183UA (UA539/19AUG/DENLAX), from seat 8A (through the win
28 Post contains images Joe pries : Mike for fake information that sure was comprehensive- where did you copy that from? Joe
29 Post contains images Apuneger : Guys, guys, calm down. The guy just asked a normal question, he didn't accuse anybody of anything. He just wanted to hear some thoughts, he didn't say
30 PUnmuth@VIE : quoted from the initial post Iam in a bit of a dilema as the this photo looks a bit ... well fake (sorry Air Nikon) He didnt accuse anybody? well i do
31 Post contains images Skymonster : I hope Migman doesn't upload photographs to the site himself... Because if he does, I think he's going to get a few rejections in the near term future
32 Sunilgupta : Andy, I’d be careful what you say (smileys notwithstanding)… you are only giving ammo to those who think the screening process is flawed. Either e
33 FACT : For the record, this user posted the same question an hour earlier in the General Aviation forum, which was deleted. The moderator did inform him in t
34 Post contains images Sunilgupta : Andrew, Just the man I needed to talk to... I've made a few corrections in the past few months (for example photo id 281843) and don't see any of them
35 Dripstick : "...instead of accusing one of A.Net's more respected photographers of faking in a public forum, why not e-mail him first and ask about the photo in q
36 Post contains images EGFF : I find it very disappointing that the photographers take there time to upload to a.net for YOU to view and then you have the cheek to cry "fake" A dis
37 Post contains links and images FACT : Sunil, your correction submissions are probably stuck in a backlog somewhere ... I do have one of those, unfortunately. The only corrections that get
38 Thomasphoto60 : You know it simply blows my mind how a simple word can change the whole dynamic of a thread. Had 'Migman' said something to the effect "How was this p
39 Chris28_17 : as i said earlier, LEAVE HIM THE F*** ALONE... he made a mistake, let it go... chris
40 Post contains images Migman : Once agian i am SORRY I have sent an e-mail to AirNikon appoligiseing to him so lets all do ourselves a favour and just leave this as it is (Finished)
41 ExitRow : The only thing fake on this thread is Migman's expertise in photography or digital manipulation. I'll say it again. Claims of fakery in this forum don
42 Chris28_17 : Once agian i am SORRY HE'S SORRY FOR PETE'S SAKE!! Anyone else who replies to this post to bash "migman" is far more immature and childish than he is
43 Post contains images ExitRow : Anyone else who replies to this post to bash "migman" is far more immature and childish than he is for his post. Oooooookay. He made a mistake, im sur
44 NonRevKing : Exitrow, at least Chris HAS input.
45 Mirage : I agree with Chris, Migman made a mistake, he realized he was wrong and said "sorry" to everybody so lets try to be also comprehensive and calm. If he
46 Thomasphoto60 : Chris is a valued member of this forum which is why I was more than a little taken a back by his support for Migman, I have a feeling that ol' Chris w
47 Mirage : I said that because he's not insisting anymore. I also agree with you Thomas that he should have asked in first place to the photographer but now it's
48 Post contains images ExitRow : NonRev... Hssssssssss!!!! Mrrrrrrrrrr!!!! Hssssssssss...
49 Post contains images Thomasphoto60 : William, LOL........ This absouletly floored me! Thomas
50 Post contains links Migman : wana see one of my attemps at photography most will say its pi.s poor say what you want i think its unusall http://www.planepictures.net/netshow.cgi?1
51 Post contains images 2912n : So what do you say when the FedEx or UPS guy brings that to your door and says, "Package for you, sign here please..." !
52 Post contains images Migman : we used to deliver them in 40ft artics to wellingbourgh and other destinations. this one went to liverpool or that region and got re regersted to N*22
53 Thomasphoto60 : Actually I rather like the shot, though it is probably not up to A.Net's standards. Thomas
54 Migman : na no way to grainy for a.net its the cheap scanner i bought !!! got loadsa good shots just no scanner to process them !!! one day i will get a good s
55 Chris28_17 : .....I have a feeling that ol' Chris would be singin a diffrent tune had one of his pics been marked as a fake. I mentioned in my first post that i HA
56 ExitRow : Bottom line: This is getting old. Just to be perfectly clear... I have no problem with someone questioning how an image was acquired. My problem is wh
57 NonRevKing : Exitrow, I don't understand. Am I supposed to be offended my a picture of your mom? I can find them all over the internet. Oh and tell her to stop cal
58 Post contains images ExitRow : NonRevKing... Thank you for your excellent contributions to this thread.
59 NonRevKing : At least it was a better comeback then "Oooooookay", "Shut up? Shut up!? LOL" and "Thanks for your input." Brian
60 Post contains images Jderden777 : i have to say that this thread has gone downhill really fast... i think that people are allowed to express themselves, but remember...and i did learn
61 AirNikon : Regarding the originator of this subject; he did in fact e-mail me and apologized, which I am not sure was actually necessary. I promptly responded, a
62 Post contains images NonRevKing : Yeah, I'm sorry too...I can't believe I got into this by sticking up for WEDLY!
63 Post contains links Bezoar : This photo was rejected because there were so many in the database already just like it. Actually, there is probably NO place for it, so I'll share it
64 Post contains images Clickhappy : hahaha rad.
65 Bezoar : Thanks, Clickhappy. You're a genius! Bezoar
66 Post contains images Clickhappy : thats what I keep trying to tell THESE people. Ryal
67 Post contains images Planeboy : No doubt - AirMike - mikeon - golfAir - Airgolf- Nikon - whatever his name is - ya can't trust him. He's contributed tons of fakes to this site. Espec
68 Post contains images Thom@s : Gee, the guy who took that picture two posts earlier sure must have had a fast escape from the ladder he put on the runway. I can't believe the plane
69 Post contains images Jwenting : MigMan, that helicopter is an obvious fake. The lights are behind it yet the reflections are visible and it is well lit And yes, everyone in the offic
70 Alaskaairlines : I think this is becoming something like a learn from your mistake forum, it usually takes one thread like this or similar and the user upgrades to a m
71 Post contains images Jderden777 : hey, just thought that i would add that i think the picture posted just a few posts above is a very nice picture!!! the photographer who took that (th
72 Post contains images Bezoar : The photo of the plane over the runway a few posts above was taken from an office building about 5 miles away with a 30 year old 110 disposable camera
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