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User currently offlineManzoori From UK - England, joined Sep 2002, 1516 posts, RR: 34
Posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2189 times:

Folks,

I've had my first rejection for BADPEOPLE recently.
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=014_NC_f.jpg

Fair enough, I can see the faces of the two guys in the bottom left corner. You know at the time I remember thinking about taking their names and numbers, so that I could thank them for walking into my shot... ahh well! The joys of the public airshow!  Crying

Can I apply a little gentle blurring to disguise them or is that not acceptable?

Go on, it's not the greatest shot in the world and life goes on and all that but if there's anyway I can salvage the shot for inclusion then I may as well try.

Cheers!

Rez


Flightlineimages DOT Com Photographer & Web Editor. RR Turbines Specialist
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User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2161 times:

I don't think its worthy of a badpeople rejection, however you could sharpen it up a bit.

Regards

Dan


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3923 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2159 times:

Static displays at airshows are a real pain simply because of the 'people factor'. Indeed they can ruin a really good shot.

Had I taken the photo I would have focused more on the flight deck where the action is. Granted there is a person in the shot but the face is not fully visable, thus it may not have been rejected for the reason stated earlier and the inter-action with the plane itself would have introduced an element of interest. With this shot the composition is just a tad loose. Another possibility would have been to locate an elevated point of view and shot the scene with a wide angle lens resulting in a more dramatic panoramaic image of the ramp, static displays and spectators.

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineManzoori From UK - England, joined Sep 2002, 1516 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2147 times:

Yeah, but I left my cherry picker in the car park! I tried to get it past the security but strangely they were having none of it!

Can't think why....

 Wink/being sarcastic Wink/being sarcastic Wink/being sarcastic

Rez



Flightlineimages DOT Com Photographer & Web Editor. RR Turbines Specialist
User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2145 times:

Hey Rez.

Perhaps this thread will answer some of your questions regarding adjusting this image:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/aviation_photography/read.main/62366/4/

I like the shot by the way. I think that's one cool paint-scheme.

W.


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2140 times:

The worst nightmare at airshows.

User currently offlineLuchtzak From Belgium, joined Dec 2001, 468 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

Manzoori,

just add a text:"Permission has been granted to take this picture"  Wink/being sarcastic

greetings,

luchtzak




User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3923 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2120 times:

IMO, airshows are a 'pill'!

Unless you have access to the pre-show activities, namely 'press days' getting some really unforgettable images is tough to say the least. As mentioned earlier you have to fight the crowds and the occasional spectator walking into the picture just as you pressed the shutter. Most shows take place at mid-day when the light (sun) is overhead providing contrasty and uninteresting light. Some shows are more photographer friendly as the images from Farnbough clearly demostrate, however most are restrictive.

As for getting an elevated wide angle perspective shot, well a cherry picker is not always necessary. Look for anything that gets you above the crowd, ask first of course, but experience has taught me that most of the show security personal have no problems with this.

However I scarcely shoot airshows for the reasons above as well as they pose little interest to me.

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2100 times:

I had this one rejected for badpeople.



Ya know, what if A.net let us use a little logo to place over the faces...like a pastie on a stripper's chesticles.

What d'ya think?

Maybe ExitRow could show us an example?  Big thumbs up


Dripstick



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2097 times:

Here is the link to the picture...

http://dripstick.tripod.com/cfcxu.jpg



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2076 times:

badlinking

 Big thumbs up

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User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2077 times:

Guess you'll have to copy and paste the address into the address bar.

badtripod.com



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3923 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2062 times:

Actually I really like that shot Drip. Had the couple had their backs away from the camera and towards the Cessna, then it might had made the db.

This would actually might have made a nice ad pic for Cessna, a local airport, ect.....Despite the fact that it did not make the db or not it is still an eye catching and well excuted photo.

BTW, was this a pre-arranged shot?

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineManzoori From UK - England, joined Sep 2002, 1516 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2052 times:

Thanks for all the responses folks, and the link Exitrow. The comment about the crowd of headless people made me chuckle!

I think I'll just quietly forget this one and host it on my own site!

Cheers

Rez



Flightlineimages DOT Com Photographer & Web Editor. RR Turbines Specialist
User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1974 times:

Thomas, my advise re. airshows is to get there really early. Be there as close as possible to opening time (if not before) and there will be few people except staff and other photographers and those are more than likely to wait a bit so you can take your shot.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=284404
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=286125
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=287857
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=286122
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=291834

Just get there early  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Mind that these are scanned on an old crappy scanner shortly after I got it from ISO 400 negatives...

last a stitch I did from 3 frames (didn't have a wideangle back then) shot with over 100000 people around:
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=268059



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

Blurring of faces is not allowed - that's digital manipulation which will get you an immediate rejection.

And if, as Luchtzak suggested, you say "permission was granted" in this case we simply wouldn't believe you  Big grin

Andy


User currently offlineThom@s From Norway, joined Oct 2000, 11951 posts, RR: 47
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

Just tell them to clear off. (In a kind manner)

When I'm at airshows or "open days", I always find the aircraft I want to photograph, and wait for the people to clear. Works if it's not too busy anyway.

Thom@s



"If guns don't kill people, people kill people - does that mean toasters don't toast toast, toast toast toast?"
User currently offlineDripstick From Canada, joined Dec 2001, 2364 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Just tell them to all turn their heads and cough.

Dripstick



What's another word for thesaurus?
User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 730 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

"Hey everybody, look over THERE!"

As well as staying early, sometimes well worth staying late (you're just gonna sit in traffic anyway  Smile ) Crowds are less, chance of some interesting "unofficial" airfield activity, and more interesting light.

I find the wide angle useful - by getting closer to the aircraft you can get inside the crowd line (and become an obstacle for someone else!).

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

Then again, sometimes people make for interesting photographs...

This kid was having a blast running up and down the ramp.

http://exitrow.freeservers.com/bw15.jpg

This one kind of summarizes a day at the airshow.

http://exitrow.freeservers.com/day.jpg

NOTE: You'll probabloy have to cut and paste. I think Freeservers is on to me.

I agree with the advice to go early. The only people there when the gates open are vendors and geeks like us...

W.


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks ago) and read 1828 times:

Yes, crowd can add to the photos but photos like those and these are not Airliners.net material.

http://www.pbase.com/image/3079483/large
http://www.pbase.com/image/3079642

Luis


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