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Nikon Introduces New Film Scanners  
User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2714 times:

My current scanner (Photosmart-SCSI version) has had it and it's time to upgrade. I have been looking into new slide (film) scanners for under $1000. I was pretty much set on the Canoscan PS2710 ($479) since the Nikon Coolscan III (LS-30) has been reported to scan Kodachrome poorly. Now, looks like Nikon has come out with some new scanners which puts my buying on hold. I think the new Coolscan IV ED is something to consider, at a list price of approx. $895.

To see previews of the new scanners:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0101/01010901nikonscanners.asp

What do you think?

Michael

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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3860 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2583 times:

Actully the 4000 ED looks rather impressive I have been looking at the Poloroid 4000.

Excuse my ignorance but I am curious if the IEEE 1394 interface they refer to is firewire ? or SCSI ? I have been hoping that someone would manfacture a film scanner with a 'firewire' interface as I really have no desire to attach a SCSI card to my new MAC (when I get it).

Thomas



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User currently offlineMilt From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 2567 times:

IEEE 1394 is indeed firewire. I'm surprised to see that support for SCSI has been dropped on all new models.

PS: The scanners come complete with a PCI firewire card for users who don't have firewire yet.

Grtz,
Marco


User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3860 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2560 times:

Great! Looks like this one will win out over the Poloroid, for my $1600.00

Thomas



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User currently offlineChrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2001 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2559 times:

Mike,

Go for the Minolta Dimage Scan Elete F-2900.

It's a SCSI, and it does a good job on KR. I've scanned a couple old rolls and it seemed to do a good job.

Later,

Chris


User currently offlineAirNikon From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 290 posts, RR: 37
Reply 5, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

My almost two-year relationship with a Nikon scanner (LS-20) ended in divorce. Here's what I will buy next, yeah it's a Kodak, so what...

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/scanners/rfs3600/3600Main.shtml




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User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 6, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2560 times:

After I pickup another F5 for my backup, I plan to seriously look into the new scanner. Hopefully by that time the new Nikons will be out and I can give them a test run.

Chris-I considered the Minolta Dimage Scan Elite and still have it on my list. So many to choose from....

Michael


User currently offlineAirNikon From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 290 posts, RR: 37
Reply 7, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2560 times:

Oh come-on Michael, I found the Kodak as low as $1099 on the net. If you can afford a "back-up" F5, you can afford one of these...


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User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 8, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

Yeah, I can afford a $1,100 scanner but it's not worth it for me right now. I mainly do scans only for a.net, my website and printing family pics. All my publishing work is done with original chromes. Maybe if I start doing more stock work I'll pickup the new Super Coolscan 8000, but for now the new Coolscan IV ED would be perfect. The stock guys I do work with have a fleet of LS-2000 and love them.

Michael


User currently offlineBO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2769 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

Sweeet.
I have a HP S20. Oo lala..



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User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 713 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2543 times:

Mikephoto suggests that the LS30 does a poor job on Kodachrome - not the case in my experience - it handles Kodachrome as well as any other emulsion I've tried. What doesn't work is the infrared based ICE dust/scratch removal - this is due to the way Kodachome fims are constructed, and any IR based dust removal system would have the same problems. On the LS30 ICE can be switched off - many people prefer not to use this anyway, though I find it very useful.

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2548 times:

I've heard of the problems, but never actually heard what sort of problem. What happens? How do the scans look when you use ICE on a Kodachrome?
/JM



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User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 713 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2534 times:

ICE scans on Kodachrome look fine - the dust simply isn't removed - for some reason the IR scan can't differentiate between dust/scratch and Kodachrome emulsion, so has no effect. Using ICE has no visual effect on Kodachrome, but since an ICE scan takes a little longer than a normal scan, I usually turn it off.

Just been studying the specs for the new Nikon scanners. I just have to have that new 4000!

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlineJan Mogren From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 2043 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

Thanks for the explanation Colin!
/JM



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User currently offlineDsmav8r From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2541 times:

Mike,

I recently retired my Photosmart as well, in favor of the Minolta Scan Dual... Needless to say, I am VERY impressed with this scanner, especially for the money. I was originally going to get a Polaroid Sprintscan 35, but I couldn't justify spending the extra $$$ for it.

There are of course much better scanners out there for under $1k, but I don't know how much money you want to spend.

If you can afford it, go with the Nikon (the supplied software is awesome), if not, go with the Minolta... Then you will have an extra $400 to put towards that backup body.  

Aric Thalman
Omaha, NE



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User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

Colin,

I have no acutal proof that the LS-30 poorly scans Kodachome, but heard from 2 different people on a.net that it does. I was aware of the ICE problem, which didn't really bother me. However, from looking at your photos on a.net, looks like K64 turns out fine. If it weren't for the new scanners, I'd reconsider the LS-30.

Aric--thanks, I'll look into the Minolta as well.

Michael


User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 713 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (13 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2514 times:

Actually, few of my pics on A.net are K64 - I prefer Fuji for air stuff, but I do use it a lot for people and nature. If you hang on for a few months you may be able to get an LS-30 real cheap as there's bound to be some serious discounting and a flood of 2nd hand models!

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlinePropfreak From Switzerland, joined Mar 2000, 157 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (13 years 3 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

hi everybody
I use the LS-30 and haven't really had any problems with colors or otherwise (especially together with Silverfast).
Also, I did use the scratch/dust-removal with Kodachrome and didn't experience any problems either (but in this case you can't use the Silverfast-software). I noticed that the colors weren't all that brilliant when I used the Nikon-software delivered with the scanner.
Olav


User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 713 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (13 years 3 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2490 times:

Olav, have you tried downloading the Nikonscan updates from their website? I found they improved matters considerably, with results comparable to Silverfast (though not with the same level of control/manipulation)

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlinePropfreak From Switzerland, joined Mar 2000, 157 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (13 years 3 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2487 times:

no, didn't download any Nikonscan updates so far, as I was quite pleased with my results from Silverfast. but I'll try.
thanx Colin


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