Apuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 12 Posted (11 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2682 times:
last Tuesday, I read somewhere that past Wednesday would be the last day that 4 Virgin Express aircraft would wear temporary 'Q Airlines' titles, celebrating the first anniversary of Q Music, a Belgian radio station.
Now, to make sure that this website would at least have 1 (!) single picture of these aircraft, I drove to the airport and took a few pics of those aircraft.
I know, the weather was bad and so, but this was the very last opportunity I ('we') had to catch those birds wearing those temporary stickers (well, I haven't been able to check it).
Here you can see the pics (click on image to see full 1024x768 image):
I know, the quality isn't 100%. But I was trying to do this site a favor and add a couple of special pictures to it's enormous database (especially the last one, I think this one's quality is the best).
But, all pics were rejected, and even the appeal function didn't help much. Johan rejected all four of them. They even didn't accept the last picture, a picture whose quality I think is rather acceptable for this special subject.
But hey, guess there's nothing I can do about it huh? If anybody'd like to have those please download them or send me an email.
Mirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3120 posts, RR: 15 Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2451 times:
This plane was here at Faro, I didn't pay too much attention while it was parked at stand because I thought it would continue painted like this for some monthes and now you're telling it was just until last wednesday? I'm not into trading slides but if I knew it, I could have made some perfect 50mm side profiles under sun for Joe, and for me
Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9548 posts, RR: 70 Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2447 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW PHOTO SCREENER
today I got to slum in on the Copa 737 delivery ceremony for a plane celebrating 100 years of Panama, wearing special paint. The weather was shite but I busted a few off, but none of the screeners cared (I sent an email)
Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9548 posts, RR: 70 Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2439 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW PHOTO SCREENER
being on the Boeing flightline today was insane. I saw some cool shiz....including the GE 747 test bed. I got some great shots of the Ryanair CEO clowing around, plus I was the only one on a brand new 738 for over 20 minutes.
Sitting in the drivers seat was huge. I was like a kid in a candystore.
Timdegroot From Netherlands, joined Apr 2002, 3674 posts, RR: 66 Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2317 times:
Ivan, as is said "possibly with rampaccess" , so nothing is confirmed yet.
But my father know the right people in the right places, so usually that gets the job done at most airports. Then again BRU has some excellent outside spots so I won't be miserable when we don't get access
Joe will tell you also, it's all about who you know in this hobby.
Apuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 12 Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 weeks ago) and read 2257 times:
Timdegroot: Yup, I know
Anyway, the photos were rejected because of low quality. This afternoon, I drove back to BRU to shoot TV737 coming from LIN, but man, the weather was even worse than last wednesday: visibility of about 1km! Fog all the way...
But, anyway, this aircraft was still wearing Q Airliners titles. That's the good news! So, guess we'll just have to wait for some sunny weather. But, and that's the bad news, I don't think we'll have good sunny weather over here at BRU for the first couple of days
NonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2183 times:
Guess the screeners have finally stopped replying to these type of posts, like they said they were going to. I've noticed this lately. At least one should have been added, being that it is rare. Guess you didn't get that one screener who loves to check the database to see how rare (common) something is. Bad move on the screeners part not taking at least one, and I guess we won't hear their side of the story...
Sabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2154 times:
Apparently a.net doesn't want to be anymore a 'complete-database'?
Those are the first, and probably the last pictures that will be uploaded from this plane with Q-Music Airlines stickers.
The quality is certainly ok (sad about the sky, but it could be much more worse, quality is still very good).
Very strange they were not accepted...
BTW: why do the screeners not reply anymore to this kind of topics? I think that this is not a normal 'why not accepted' thread, it goes about special aircrafts which are not added to the database anymore apparently...
Apuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 12 Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2007 times:
NonRevKing and Sabena 690:
Thanks for the support! Yes it's true. I'd like to hear something from the screeners as well. But however, I don't want to become one of those guys over here that have a certain 'reputation' and jeopardise the upload of future pictures.
But once again, I also think one should have been uploaded (preferably the last one - I think it has acceptable image quality). Or if one of the screeners could give me some sort of advice on how to improve them...
Or maybe someone else would like to improve it? If you'd like I can upload the original Img_0011.jpg to my webspace and if you'd like you can try to get it better?
Skymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 1992 times:
Why do the screeners not reply anymore to this kind of topics?
There's no point in the screeners responding to this topic - you've provided the answer yourself...
Even the appeal function didn't help much. Johan rejected all four of them.
But I'll tell you why the screeners don't tend to respond to this type of topic anymore...
A year ago, the screening / acceptance process was very closed - very little in the way of explanation, very little in the way of feedback (no criticism of those involved at the time intended).
We tried to change things, we tried to make the process more transparent by explaining what happens, how judgments are made, etc. We hoped that this would reduce the number of critical topics, on the basis that photographers should be better informed, know what was expected, and how judgments were made. However, the end result of this policy of making things more open was a large increase in the amount of aggressive or critical screening/process topics on this forum. What actually happened, in effect, was that there was a huge growth in the "armchair screener" syndrome - photographers who thought they knew what was going on trying to out-judge or out-maneuver the screening and appeals process.
For a long while, we tried to deal with these topics by trying to respond positively and constructively, but a fair number of our attempts at this just resulted in more criticism. So we've reached the situation we are now in. I am not singling out those involved in this topic as the only culprits, but there is a process for dealing with rejected pictures, and that is to appeal. Clearly in this case, the appeal has failed and therefore all this topic does is further encourage this "armchair screening" syndrome - effectively, its just adding fuel to the "we know better than the screeners" (or indeed more than the editor in chief) thing.
Please note that there is no absolute policy of screeners not responding to topics in the forum, but if there is a general perception that screeners nolonger reply to these topics, then you now know why - lack of motivation to do so based on us having tried before, and having found it achieved nothing.
Apuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 12 Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1959 times:
Thanks for your honest answer. Please don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to be aggressive or so, certainly not. In fact I wasn't trying to take down the screeners.
I was asking the forum members for their opinion about the rejected pictures, and ask them for some good advice. I really think that it would be good for A.net to have at least one picture of those aircraft with their special markings. I even don't care wether it's mine or not.
So, at this moment I'm trying to improve the quality of the pictures I took so at least one of the pictures will make it to the database.
If the weather here should increase (no sun these past 2 days whatsoever, only low visibility ) I'll go back to BRU and try to shoot one of those 4 birds. Let's hope they still wear these stickers by then. If not, too bod for the database I think. But hey, I'll have them in my own personal collection, and that is what counts most for me!
Sabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1928 times:
Thanks for your answer, Andy, and I understand your point of view.
Anyway, it is still a fact that I did not see any criticism here in this thread... Ivan asked a normal question that deserves a normal answer. If the topic would have been something like ''hey screeners, what is wrong with it, why don't you just accept it huh? Picture is ok, so why don't you do it; are you boycotting me maybe???'' I would immediately ask for deletion, but I think that in this topic absolutely no offence is included towards Johan and the screeners.
Apuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3030 posts, RR: 12 Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1815 times:
Thanks for the information. I'll definitely do my best, especially since I currently have been hired by a cargo company as airport dispatcher (really not that big 'aviation' deal, but I'm very close to the airport: Brucargo )
I'll try to shoot it, maybe even this week. But of course, we'll need some good weather. And it has been kind of foggy for these past few days now around BRU.