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User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3176 times:

Recently I started to upload photos to photoSIG to share and receive different comments about photography.

Today I put this photo there:



Well, can you imagine there were people to insinuate that this photo was manipulated under Photo Shop  Wow!

Two comments:

"I hope it's real, without PS-changes. NICE!"

"Sweet! Love the sky and the composition. Even if it was manipulated it is still good. If you have a chance please check my work."

I'm not affected by this, I just think it's incredible how distorted some people minds are.

Luis



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User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3087 times:

It is because people are idiots. Sad isn't it.

User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3069 times:

Yes it's a kind of sad when people doesn't understand something, they start to invent.

As the link is not working the photo is this:


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Photo © Luis Rosa



Luis


User currently offlineExitRow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3067 times:

Luis,
That's a gorgeous image.

Ignore the fools. They don't know what they are talking about.

William


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

Luis - as far as I am aware, photosig are always suggesting that photos are fake, so I wouldn't be bothered!! Do you remember that photo of a 747 landing over Maho beach and everyone said it was fake until the a.net troop arrived? I think there are no worries.

btw. the picture is superb, amazing colours Big grin


User currently offlinePhotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2826 posts, RR: 18
Reply 5, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Hi Luis and 2912N:

I also have an image on PhotoSig, and you must remember that each site has an entirely different reason for being.

On PhotoSig, most of its audience wouldn't care a bit for the differenct between a Piper Cub and the Concorde. As far as the uninitiated are concerned, they are both just airplanes. But the real reason for the PhotoSig site is for the ART of photography.

Composition, light, shadow etc are the judging criteria. And in the art world, there is indeed a great deal of photo manipulation in the name of art. Just take a look at the advertising world and images used in magazine ads to see the ultimate form of image manipulation.

And of course, where do you draw the line. I will admit to manipulating photos, even some of the ones here on A.net. Oh blasphemy, shame and scandal. Let the complaints pour in about my work. But let's also be realistic.

Lighten, darken, contrast, unsharp mask, color correction, etc. These are all manipulations of photos. Ok, let the D60 guys say that their images are perfect just as they come out of the camera. Big grin But you see what I mean. I have shots where I have cloned out a piece of trash laying on the ramp in front of the plane. I have also removed a bug splat from the leading edge of a wing to get a clean photo. And yes, I have even taken a whole CAR out of a photo so that the aircraft was perfect. It's also a great way to get those annoying faces out of a frame. Just remove the whole person. So where do we draw the line. Well for one, I will not fake a photo by doing something such as close-cropping an aircraft onto an entirely different background. But some would.

So the point of all this is to say that sites (and the people that use them) like PhotoSig use different criteria than we do. So don't be angry with them or call them idiots. Look at the world through their glasses and understand their point of view. And maybe someday they will see our point of view.

Thanks for the soapbox

Steve


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

You're right Dan, as I'm watching other photos at photoSIG and the comments, I can see a tendecy for people to use the PS argument very lightly. I don't get it but I'm not really bothered.

Luis


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3045 times:

Steve, I can understand that different websites have different criteria, but I was not expecting that those folks at photoSIG were so biased by PS manipulations, I was expecting that at a first sight they would belive it's a genuine photo.

thanks for your opinion
Luis


User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 8, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2951 times:

Luis,

I just commented on all of your photos at photosig. That is some amazing stuff, please keep up the good work! I really enjoy your photos.

As for the people at Photosig... most are somewhat ignorant of other photographic generes other than their own, and I think that's why you didn't recieve better comments. They just don't realize how difficult aviation photography is... it's absolutely nothing like still lifes or pictures of the kids.

Again, keep up the good work. I think you are my new favorite photographer!

Shawn


User currently offlineMirage From Portugal, joined May 1999, 3125 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2885 times:

Thanks Shawn, really appreciate your words. BTW, that photo you saw with the Monarch A330 and the reflex on the water, similar to this one:

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Photo © Luis Rosa


that's not ice, it's salt and it was Summer, we don't have snow here, in fact we almost don't have Winter in south Portugal Big grin

Luis


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2861 times:

If you want a friendly crowd who know what can be done with a camera and film without resorting to Photoshop effects, take a look at http://www.usefilm.com.



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (12 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

Jeroen,

you are taking the words out of my mouth.... Usefilm.com has a very friendly atmosphere, and is very good for learning.

Wietse



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