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Getting Really Tired Of This......  
User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 45
Posted (12 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2301 times:

I already know what you guys will say, hold your breath and let me speak first:

Almost every shot is getting rejected for either being too soft or low image quality or whatever......seems my work is really going downhill.......

I know I can appeal but still would like to get some comments

I uploaded this shot about 20 min ago and having looked at the original image it kind a looked tilted, therefore I used the poles and the facility door / lines in the back as my landmark and rotated the image a little.

Guess what....it was rejected for badcamera angle.

This is the original rejected image
http://www.airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=LH300_MUC_11082002.jpg

and this one with some grid lines, so you tell me.


I check the image over and over again.

Do I need glasses .....

Vasco G.


12 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlinePH-OTO From Netherlands, joined Mar 2002, 434 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (12 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2241 times:

Vasco,

Screeners don't use gridlines, and if you look at the tips of the tailplanes, the left one is closer to the top than the right one. I guess that's why it was rejected.

I always try to rotate it so that it looks straight and I don't really care if it really is gridlinewise. Hope it helps, if you reupload it should have a chance I guess. Oh, I like the shot by the way!

Martin Boschhuizen



Look very closely between the lines of this message, and you will see the captain beating up the jumpseater
User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (12 years 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2224 times:

Sorry Vasco but it is clearly not level, open a new window and then minimize it to make it a window, then put it across in line with the roof of the building in the background, or the vertical stabalizers or the lines you've put over the wings, they clearly don't line up.

Rotate 1-1.5 degrees anti-clockwise and that will sort it.


User currently offlineShawn Patrick From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (12 years 3 days ago) and read 2211 times:

You can't really go by the lines on the building in the background. Those are such short segments that you wont be able to tell if there is rotation. If you were to extend THOSE lines, you'd see that you're 1-3º rotated, and that's quite a bit of rotation.

Just for future reference


User currently offlineKingwide From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 838 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (12 years 3 days ago) and read 2162 times:

It's way out. Put the lines on the terminal building in the background. All your reference lines are on the aircraft. As the rejection reason says, the camera must be level with the horizon not the aircraft.


J



Jason Taperell - AirTeamImages
User currently offlineCarlos borda From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 538 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (12 years 3 days ago) and read 2166 times:

FYI- Just in case you have it read it yet...

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/site_related/read.main/6320/

Some interesting reading going on in there regarding these types of posts. I normally only read and contribute to the "aviation photography" forum (to much to read, and so little time to read it all) so I'm not up to date with some of the ongoings in the other forums.

~Los


User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 45
Reply 6, posted (12 years 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2014 times:

Thanks guys,

you are absolutely correct with your evaluation.....Upon checking the image again I admit that the rejection reason was ok.

Having scanned this last night, I guess my eyes were tired.

Will rescan, rotate and upload again.

Vasco



User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 765 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (12 years 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

It is a real pleasure to see someone coming back and saying that the screeners were correct afterall - not to prove that screeners are always right (we aren't), but to demonstrate how even a respected photographer like Vasco can make a mistake in evaluating their own shots.

This is nice to see - someone complaining about a rejection, some comments made and the photographer actually listening to what was said and taking appropriate action.

Net result ... thanks to screener intervention and helpful feedback, Vasco should end up with a better representation of his work on A.net. Everyone wins.

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlineGranite From UK - Scotland, joined May 1999, 5576 posts, RR: 63
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1996 times:
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Hi all

Someone saying the screeners are right.............is there a Blue Moon tonight  Smile

Regards

Gary Watt
Aberdeen, Scotland


User currently offlineAKE0404AR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2535 posts, RR: 45
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1956 times:

I guess we are all adults enough to admit when mistakes are made....screeners and photographers!

Afterall we depend on each other!

Colin summed it up pretty well. Could not have said it better!

Gotta admit, I checked the image multible times before uploading and something seemed wrong, but could not figure out what it was.

I kind of got distracted since I orientated myself at the bulding lines in the back. My mistake.

I rotated the image this morning and it looks a lot better.

Should I say thank you to the screener who rejected it? Don't know yet, maybe!  Big grin

Vasco G.


User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 10, posted (12 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

Wait to see the next rejection, because of "badpeople" Big grin

Sorry, just a joke!!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy The pic is a bit tilted (1-2° I'd say), but otherwise an interesting shot. I'm curious, how it will look like, once it is uploaded.

Regards
Gerardo



dominguez(dash)online(dot)ch ... Pushing the limits of my equipment
User currently offlineCkw From UK - England, joined Aug 2010, 765 posts, RR: 16
Reply 11, posted (12 years 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

Of course this is just an elaborate ploy by Vasco to ensure that the shot when finally accepted gets loads of hits!  Smile

Cheers,

Colin



Colin K. Work, Pixstel
User currently offlineLjungdahl From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 908 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (12 years 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1897 times:

OK, as this is mentioned just too seldom here,

this must be the opportunity - the screeners makes an excellent job to keep this site to the very top!
Thank you all, guys!
 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Johan


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