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Question For Taking Night Pictures.

Xenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 13
Posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

Hi,

My question is: what can be done to that yellow shine when taking night pictures?
Or...is it just normal when you shoot with a longer shutterspeed?
Maybe a filter or so?

I uses a Olympus C2100UZ.

some examples:

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Many thx for any advice,

Daniel

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Clickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9463 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1834 times:

AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

it depends on the lighting. Most airports use those awful yellowish lights, but some, like YVR, use the really bright white type, I think they are mercury vapour lights. Anyways, the color tone of the picture should be dictated by the color of the light source.

Xenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1828 times:

Clickhappy:

So you think the yellow shine isn't disturbing the rest of the picture?

Thx,

Daniel

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Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3727 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Indeed some airports use mercury vapour lighting while others use sodium vapour and some still use fluorescent. You can buy a number of filters to remedy this problem, however these can be a pain. I suggest using Photoshop or whatever imaging program you prefer and correct it there.

Thomas

"Show me the Braniffs"

PPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1825 times:

Xenon,

You asked for help so I spent a moment in PS.

Converted the picture to CMYK

Went into curves

Pulled down the top end of the yellow to where the picture looked right.

Converted back to RGB

Resized it

One thing that you can do in camera so you don't lose dynamic range, set your white balance.

At worst, you screw up and die.

Xenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

PPGMD:

So the yellow on the tarmac is gone but so is the yellow from the plane...
You think A.net would accepted the picture like this?

Thx for helping,

Daniel

PS: What with that white balans

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Res From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

I notice your Olympus has the same problem as mine...it has that green dot in the same place on every picture. I clone them out with my photos though. Its visible in the lower right quadrant, somewhat close to the center.

FLY NAVY

Xenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

Guys,

Can't reply anymore for the moment. Have finished on my work so I go to bed!
See you later!

Thx for helping me!

Daniel

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PPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1815 times:

White balance sets the colors tones for the lighting types, weather it's red tint of light bulbs or the slight blue tint of speedlights. As far as being accepted you lost alot of dynamic range by not setting your white balance in camera, so maybe not.

At worst, you screw up and die.

Lear45 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

Daniel

You need to change the white balance setting, and experiment with whatever the C-2100uz has (tungsten ??).

I used to own a C-2100uz but actually got rid of it because it wasn't able to take 'right-looking' night shots however ;,-(

Andy

Jofa From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 320 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1768 times:

PPGMD

"Converted the picture to CMYK"

Why would you want to do that and loose alot of colorinformation?
RGBs colorspace is ~16 million colors while CMYK is only a couple of thousand.
That means all colors not printable will be converted to printable ones once you choose CMYK, giving the image a faded, greyish look.

I would suggest keeping it in RGB and choose Adjust-->Selective Color.

Jormy From Finland, joined Jan 2000, 231 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1748 times:

Well, here's how I deal with that yellow-cast "problem":

1. First of all, you need to have a RAW capable camera to do this.

2. Take a picture with auto white balance/tungsten settings and the resulting image looks something like this (yuck Sad

3. Bring the RAW to somekind of a converter where you can set a custom white point.

4. Select a white point from the picture (usually planes body is good unless the plane is not white)

5. The resulting image should look somewhat nicer:

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If you don't have a RAW capable camera then I suggest to try some color-correcting filters. 81A, 81B and 81C are good filters to start with...

-Janne

Cabbott From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 497 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1730 times:

Janne

I just played around with a shot which was similar to yours in tungsten colours.

Used ACDSEE auto balance and wallaa...

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Jormy From Finland, joined Jan 2000, 231 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1726 times:

Colin,

looking good... didn't know you could have that nice weather in the UK... Wow!

-Janne

Photopilot From Cuba, joined Jul 2002, 2441 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1707 times:

Colin:

Love the texture the snow gives to the "sky" with the shining lights. Well done shot.

Steve

LGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1699 times:

Janne...great shot and amazing the difference between the two shots...don't let Vasco see all this editing, like his World MD11 shot...all shots should represent the actual conditions so if the shot is ruined by horrid yellow lightsthen so be it and upload anyway Big grin

j/k Vasco

LGW

PPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

Jofa,

I send most of my stuff out to print so working in CMYK is natural for me. Besides the selective color interface seems a little slugish, it's much easier working with the curves. But you know what I have never seem any major issues with picture quality after converting to CMYK, which I do routinely for shots that I need that extra bit of control.

But the easiest way would be to just set your white balance so you don't even have to do any editing.

At worst, you screw up and die.

Jofa From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 320 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (10 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1667 times:

PPGMD

Converting to CMYK and then printing makes sence, but converting them back to RGB and using for the web decreases the quality whether your eyes see it or not.
Since everybody is striving towards better quality i think it's important to point this out.

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