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Question For Taking Night Pictures.  
User currently offlineXenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 12
Posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

Hi,

My question is: what can be done to that yellow shine when taking night pictures?
Or...is it just normal when you shoot with a longer shutterspeed?
Maybe a filter or so?

I uses a Olympus C2100UZ.

some examples:


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Many thx for any advice,

Daniel




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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9603 posts, RR: 69
Reply 1, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2968 times:
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PHOTO SCREENER

it depends on the lighting. Most airports use those awful yellowish lights, but some, like YVR, use the really bright white type, I think they are mercury vapour lights. Anyways, the color tone of the picture should be dictated by the color of the light source.

User currently offlineXenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2962 times:

Clickhappy:

So you think the yellow shine isn't disturbing the rest of the picture?

Thx,

Daniel



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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3923 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2961 times:

Indeed some airports use mercury vapour lighting while others use sodium vapour and some still use fluorescent. You can buy a number of filters to remedy this problem, however these can be a pain. I suggest using Photoshop or whatever imaging program you prefer and correct it there.

Thomas



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User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

Xenon,

You asked for help so I spent a moment in PS.



Converted the picture to CMYK

Went into curves

Pulled down the top end of the yellow to where the picture looked right.

Converted back to RGB

Resized it

One thing that you can do in camera so you don't lose dynamic range, set your white balance.



At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineXenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2957 times:

PPGMD:

So the yellow on the tarmac is gone but so is the yellow from the plane...
You think A.net would accepted the picture like this?

Thx for helping,

Daniel

PS: What with that white balans



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User currently offlineRes From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2956 times:

I notice your Olympus has the same problem as mine...it has that green dot in the same place on every picture. I clone them out with my photos though. Its visible in the lower right quadrant, somewhat close to the center.


FLY NAVY
User currently offlineXenon From Belgium, joined Aug 2001, 494 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2950 times:

Guys,

Can't reply anymore for the moment. Have finished on my work so I go to bed!
See you later!

Thx for helping me!

Daniel



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User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

White balance sets the colors tones for the lighting types, weather it's red tint of light bulbs or the slight blue tint of speedlights. As far as being accepted you lost alot of dynamic range by not setting your white balance in camera, so maybe not.


At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineLear45 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 55 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 3 weeks ago) and read 2913 times:

Daniel

You need to change the white balance setting, and experiment with whatever the C-2100uz has (tungsten ??).

I used to own a C-2100uz but actually got rid of it because it wasn't able to take 'right-looking' night shots however ;,-(

Andy


User currently offlineJofa From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 320 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

PPGMD

"Converted the picture to CMYK"

Why would you want to do that and loose alot of colorinformation?
RGBs colorspace is ~16 million colors while CMYK is only a couple of thousand.
That means all colors not printable will be converted to printable ones once you choose CMYK, giving the image a faded, greyish look.

I would suggest keeping it in RGB and choose Adjust-->Selective Color.


User currently offlineJormy From Finland, joined Jan 2000, 231 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2882 times:

Well, here's how I deal with that yellow-cast "problem":

1. First of all, you need to have a RAW capable camera to do this.

2. Take a picture with auto white balance/tungsten settings and the resulting image looks something like this (yuck  Sad):


3. Bring the RAW to somekind of a converter where you can set a custom white point.

4. Select a white point from the picture (usually planes body is good unless the plane is not white)

5. The resulting image should look somewhat nicer:

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If you don't have a RAW capable camera then I suggest to try some color-correcting filters. 81A, 81B and 81C are good filters to start with...

-Janne


User currently offlineCabbott From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 497 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2864 times:

Janne

I just played around with a shot which was similar to yours in tungsten colours.

Used ACDSEE auto balance and wallaa...


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Colin


User currently offlineJormy From Finland, joined Jan 2000, 231 posts, RR: 5
Reply 13, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2860 times:

Colin,

looking good... didn't know you could have that nice weather in the UK...  Wow!

-Janne


User currently offlinePhotopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 2719 posts, RR: 18
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

Colin:

Love the texture the snow gives to the "sky" with the shining lights. Well done shot.

Steve


User currently offlineLGW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2833 times:

Janne...great shot and amazing the difference between the two shots...don't let Vasco see all this editing, like his World MD11 shot...all shots should represent the actual conditions so if the shot is ruined by horrid yellow lightsthen so be it and upload anyway Big grin

j/k Vasco

LGW


User currently offlinePPGMD From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 2453 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2820 times:

Jofa,

I send most of my stuff out to print so working in CMYK is natural for me. Besides the selective color interface seems a little slugish, it's much easier working with the curves. But you know what I have never seem any major issues with picture quality after converting to CMYK, which I do routinely for shots that I need that extra bit of control.

But the easiest way would be to just set your white balance so you don't even have to do any editing.



At worst, you screw up and die.
User currently offlineJofa From Sweden, joined Apr 2002, 320 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2801 times:

PPGMD

Converting to CMYK and then printing makes sence, but converting them back to RGB and using for the web decreases the quality whether your eyes see it or not.
Since everybody is striving towards better quality i think it's important to point this out.


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