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Advice On These Three Rejects.  
User currently offlineQantas744 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 246 posts, RR: 5
Posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2540 times:

I just had these three knocked back, they are all fairly similar and were all rejected for 'badscan'.

http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=rjxh1212i.jpg
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=rjxe1212.jpg
http://airliners.net/procphotos/rejphoto.main?filename=rjxd1212.jpg

If anything I thought they might get a badsoft message but to be honest I'm not sure what to do with them-are they worth working on? If usually only resubmit pictures where the reject message is specific and the problem can be solved easily, and I've not yet tried a resubmission on a badsoft or badscan reject.

Any help gratefully recieved!


Matt


you can't buy time but you can sell your soul and the closest thing to heaven is to rock'n'roll
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User currently offlineScooter From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2526 times:

My god...the standards must have went up a notch if these didn't make it. Seriously. Are there a lot of shots of this particular aircraft in the database?

No picture is perfect, and yes, I could be really nitpicky and call out a few things about your pics - if anything, they are a *touch* soft, but they are by no means "bad scans". Take a look at the reg and trailing edge of the tail in the last shot - slight degradation, but nothing serious (IMHO).

Try sharpening them up a bit (but be careful of that last one - you may actually make it worse), and try again...


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 34
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

They are slightly soft, so apply a little USM and they should be acceptable.

As far as I know, thats probably the reason why the screeners rejected it (it could have been better).

Regards

Dan


User currently offlineSunilgupta From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 782 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2492 times:

Matt, I have a feeling that part of the reason your shots were rejected for ‘badscan’ is that they are taken in the winter with a low sun and low light. This results in a in a tinted and dark photo that, in fact, may reflect what you actually saw that day. Despite that, you may want to try to:

1) knock off some of the redish tint
2) adjust the gamma a bit to increase the brightness and/or increase the contrast a little.

As far as the standards…

Sunil


User currently offlineJ.mo From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 663 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

Nice shots Matt. They look good. Too bad airplanes are no longer the focus here though...

Jeremy



What is the difference between Fighter pilots and God? God never thought he was a fighter pilot.
User currently offlineQantas744 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 246 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2442 times:

Well I've already used gamma to brighten up all the pictures from that day-yes it was dark but D30's have a tendancy to produce dark results. But I'm not so sure that is the problem because I had this one accepted


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Photo © Matthew Willmott-Sharp



and it was taken under the same conditions. I suspect it's more a case of needing some USM as I deliberately held back a bit with USM after having a couple of 'Badjagged' messages last week!


Matt



you can't buy time but you can sell your soul and the closest thing to heaven is to rock'n'roll
User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2435 times:

OK, I'll have a punt into this one as I was responsible for rejecting one of your pictures - the good news for me is that I didn't reject them all, so we screeners must be thinking alike!!!

I'm sorry but all of the pictures you link to show some signs of badscan - particularly of jpeg compression particularly noticable around windows and words. The one I did reject, the Star Alliance pic, also shows a lot of noise in the darker colours, both on the airplane and in the background.

As to a fix... Maximum quality, no compression, and knowing that you're using a digital SLR shoot at the lowest film speed as my own experience suggests that the higher you set the film speed the more likely you are to get low quality results.

Andy


User currently offlineQantas744 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 246 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2423 times:

No need to apologize Andy, I'm really not going to lose any sleep over this!

I just find it difficult sometimes to be sure of what the fault is, and if I can see where I'm going wrong then I know better for next time and I can hopefully improve my standards bit by bit.

Thanks for your input though.


Matt



you can't buy time but you can sell your soul and the closest thing to heaven is to rock'n'roll
User currently offlineQantas744 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 246 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2410 times:

I still had them on the memory card so here are the technical details,

G-RJXD ISO200 1/250 F9.5
G-RJXE ISO200 1/250 F9.5
G-RJXH ISO400 1/500 F8.0

I do try and avoid ISO200/400 but on winter days it is sometimes required when using a zoom lens.


Matt



you can't buy time but you can sell your soul and the closest thing to heaven is to rock'n'roll
User currently offlineEGFF From UK - Wales, joined Sep 2001, 2201 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2350 times:

"ISO400" wow Matt, you really went out to sea didnt you  Laugh out loud
Last time i used ISO400 on my F707 the results weren't great  Sad
Still, nice shots  Big thumbs up
Regards
Shaun



All together or not at all
User currently offlineQantas744 From United Kingdom, joined May 2004, 246 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 2335 times:

That's what happens when you go north of the border-you lose the ability to operate a camera!! Mind you it was pretty dark, and zooming at 200mm doesn't help!

Worse than that was that glorious sunny day we had on Monday, I went out to shoot take offs from LHR 09R and got home to find I had shot nearly 100 pictures in bright sunshine on ISO400 :-( I had been doing some railway photography the previous day and had to use ISO400 but forgot to reset it (I'm still not used to having to do that!) and the two hours I spent freezing to death on Monday were a complete waste of time!

If the sun ever comes out again I'll try and remember to use ISO100 Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Matt



you can't buy time but you can sell your soul and the closest thing to heaven is to rock'n'roll
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