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Hassled For Taking Photos Inflight!  
User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 7855 times:

Myself and a buddy of mine were on a flight several weeks ago. Before departure he had his camera in his lap (focusing out the window etc, BTW it was a manual focus camera, not electronic). A cranky F/A came up and said "I know your not taking photos". Jokingly he said "oh no, not of you", in a stern voice she says again "I know you won't be taking any photos". He said why? She said after 9/11 it wasn't allowed. He told he her was also a F/A and had never heard of such a rule. Then she comes back with well it's a company policy. He started to put it away but kept asking questions, when she says "that's it, I'm telling my lead!". She never came back, but we both knew she was wrong. On another flight a few days before I was taking pics out the window and the F/A came up and commented on how nice it was (digital BTW) and that I should give it to her (jokingly). I took the cranky F/A's name and wrote that airline, which told me that it was NOT a company policy.

OK, his camera was not electric, no harm there. I really don't know what her problem was (she was being short with other pax as wel). Has anyone else encountered this before inflight??

JC

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User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 1, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 7773 times:

Once, but only after landing. Was told the airport was also a military base and photography on the ramp was not permitted.
No hassle, just a friendly warning to make sure no airport official would see the camera through the window. By that time I was done shooting anyway  Smile/happy/getting dizzy



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineJderden777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1755 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7725 times:

i've encountered this, but not from an F/A....from an old lady sitting a row behind me, said for me to "stop taking pictures" because it "messes with the controls" and what not.....i tried to tell her that it was perfectly fine to take pictures, that it wouldn't do any harm, so i continued to take pictures inflight (yes, i did take some inflight pictures) and she continued to scream at me "STOOOP TAKIIIING PEECTURES!!!!" finally i spoke to a kind F/A and she said "sure, go ahead and take all the pictures you want!", loud enough for the lady sitting behind me to hear....i didn't hear another word out of the woman for the rest of the flight, but she did give me an evil look while we were deplaning after the flight....

hmm....that's the closest i can come to being hassled for taking pictures inflight....and it was before 9/11....in Nov 01 i was flying CVG-DFW on a DAL 738 and I asked the F/A about taking pictures and she just didn't want inflight pictures of the cabin to be taken, which was fine with me....i don't know why though...it was a night flight anyway so i didn't have the camera out except to take a few cockpit shots....

jonathan d.



"my soul is in the sky" - shakespeare
User currently offlineEGFF From UK - Wales, joined Sep 2001, 2201 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7693 times:

On my last flight with BMI Baby the air hostesses let me move to a whole row of my own to take pics, and they even enquired about my camera asking how much, etc ...
I fly again in 2 weeks, hope everything's still ticking nicely ... shall soon see
Regards
Shaun



All together or not at all
User currently offlineJT8D From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7600 times:

On my recent flight with Virgin Atlantic I took many inflight pics. One very nice Flight Attendant stopped on her way back to the crew rest area to ask which camera model I was using and gave me advice on where to get some good pictures of the winglet and engines. At the end of the flight a different FA asked if I was able to get some good shots. I told him, yes I thought so, and told him to check airliners.net in a few days; he responded that he often checked this site to look at aircraft pics and would look for mine.

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User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3954 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7589 times:

I've had a few F/As tell me "How nice it was".....but they weren't talking about my camera!  Smokin cool

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7569 times:

Never been hassled for in flight pics, but have had some passengers give odd looks, mostly for not understanding why I would want to take pictures in the first place. Silly people.
Shameless plug.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

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Ed



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9633 posts, RR: 68
Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7570 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
PHOTO SCREENER

I've had a few F/As tell me "How nice it was".....but they weren't talking about my camera!

Take it on board, do ya?  Big grin


User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7488 times:

Nope - No hassles what so ever, I was recently on 4 AS flights and 2 Horizon flights, shot like 3 rolls over a period of 18 days, not one problem, I am sure people thought I was getting hit by jet lag hard, but you don't experince those problems with Alaska or horizon.  Big grin

-Dmitry


User currently offlineJoge From Finland, joined Feb 2000, 1444 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7467 times:

Then she comes back with well it's a company policy

And what was again this airline having those strange rules?  Insane

-Joge



Bula!
User currently offlineBO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2771 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7467 times:

WestJet airlines is very friendly with picture taking while inflight.

On my way back to YYC from YVR a month before the 911 attacks I was taking pictures and I sat beside a WestJet Pilot and behind me sat another WestJet pilot. Both were pretty cool, observing me clicking like mad wondering why I am taking pictures of darkness at 10pm. ahha. Course it didnt turn out that well but oh well.
But overall it was a great experience and I will definetly do this again as I fly with them in the future.

bo



Chance favors the prepared mind.
User currently offlineNonRevKing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 7422 times:

I was Justin's friend on the flight. I don't wanna say the airline, cause I was non reving, but lets just say its a certain airline that flies to New York a lot. The airline that's suposed to be friendly towards the passengers.  Big grin The funny thing is I wasn't even gonna take any pictures, I just had my camera out while I was tidying up my bag. She just jumped all over me saying it's not allowed after 9/11. I was trying to be friendly enough, and I pointed out that I was an FA as well, and I never heard anything like that. Then she said "Well it's XXXXXXX Airways policy" and I countered with "Would it help you to know that up until a few months ago I was Ground Security Coordinator with XXXXXXX Airways and I never heard anything about that?" Once she realized she wasn't dealing with another ignorant pax is when she threatened to "call her lead".

If there's one thing I can't stand is people causing problems where there aren't any.


User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7405 times:

I've been told not to take pics during takeoff or landing a few times (on Ryanair and Virgin Atlantic) and to stow away the camera. Other than that, no problems so far.

One tip for Ryanair: Make sure you don't sit in the emergency exit rows, i.e. the very first and last rows of the aircraft as well as the overwing exit ones. There the F/As have to approach people and talk to them about hand luggage (space underneath seat in front is to be kept free), so they often tell them to put their cameras away, as well...

Regards

Ikarus


User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7408 times:

No problems on BMI (IAD to MAN)... I even had the (electronic, digital) camera out and was using it during taxi and takeoff. The pursor came down checking seatbelts just before takeoff, and asked me to make sure that the strap was around my neck so that if anything "happened" the camera wouldn't become a projectile in the cabin. Other than that, no problems and during flight like many others the crew just asked if I'd got any good pictures.

Andy


User currently offlineSIDsandSTARs From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7408 times:

A lot may depend on the country your flying over at the time, as well as how a particular crew chose to interpret and implement their airlines own rules.

Here is the guidance given in one airlines ops manual:


Restrictions on Photography and Carriage of Cameras

The Captain is responsible for ensuring that national laws relating to photography from the air are observed by his crew members and passengers. Breach of these laws could be most serious, resulting in detention of the crew or impounding of the aircraft.

There is no restriction to the carriage of cameras in the aircraft cabin provided that they are carried in a bag or case, however, in-flight photography is prohibited over the following countries:

Austria
Belgium
Canada
-(Goose Bay within a radius of 25 nm)
-(Stephenville)
-(Argentia)
Columbia
Cyprus
Egypt
Greece
Hungary
Indonesia
Iran
Iraq
Israel
Italy
Jordan
Kuwait
Luxemburg
Malaysia
Malta
Myanmar
Okinawa
Pakistan
Philippine Islands
Portugal
Rumania
Spain
Syria
Thailand
Turkey
USA -(Over prohibited areas only)
Former USSR States
Uraguay
Vietnam
Former Yugoslavia

The Captain of an aeroplane passing over the above countries must ensure that Cabin Crew are particularly watchful for passengers with cameras and inform them that photography over these countries is prohibited by local law.


Hope this helps, Rgds Sid.  Smile


User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7344 times:

As for photography in the USA, what exactly do you mean by a "prohibited area"? Are these the same as the prohibited areas on the sectional charts (such as the White House?)


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineIkarus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 3524 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7327 times:

Accordingly, I would be a wanted man in:

Austria
Belgium
Italy


Don't think so...  Big grin


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7323 times:

USA -(Over prohibited areas only)
I'm guessing AFB's and oh....I dunno....Area 51  Big grin

Normally I put my camera bag under the seat in front of me, when we taxi out/line up on the rwy, I pull out the camera.


User currently offlineOmegous From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7316 times:

Since I got my first digital camera back in May...the lower end but great quality Canon A40 I have taken pictures on all my flights (about 6 roundtrips since then).

Only on one segment did I have a fellow pax say anything to me (LAS-ATL in July), something about "you were told not to have any electronic devices in use!!!" and then something about it being illegal. I casually explained that they were wrong and that was the end of it. Not bad...

And a few shameless plugs also, appropriate since the only photos I can currently get accepted ARE inflight shots...


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User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 7302 times:

I was on a WN flight recently...for a good 10 minutes towards the end of the flight I was up and about switching seats and taking about 10-15 pictures (it was an empty bird, wasnt bothering anyone), this was in full views of the f/a's and they didnt care at all...

That thing about not taking pictures over certain countries...in all honesty I find that hard to believe...its nearly impossible to enforce...

"You just took a picture of Belgian farmland sir, Im afraid thats illegal, we will have to confiscate your camera and throw you in jail for a day"...come on...what airline's manual is that?

Ive shot pics of numerous military facilities in-flight...Dover AFB, March AFB, Stewart International (C-5 ANG base), and PIT ANG ramp come to mind, and the f/a's probably dont have an idea that we are flying over those, nor would they care probably...

Greg



Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 20, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7275 times:

I took pictures and never had any problems. An America West FA was actually pretty interested in pics, and knew about A.net. I took pictures of Buckley Airforce base, I will have to see if I can get it uploaded here. Passengers that sat next to me did not care either.

Alex



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User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7263 times:

"You just took a picture of Belgian farmland sir, Im afraid thats illegal, we will have to confiscate your camera and throw you in jail for a day"...come on...what airline's manual is that?

Thing is, its not the cabin or flight deck crew's job to act as policeman in such matters, and therefore its largely irrelevent what's written in an airline ops manual about which countries its legal to photograph and which its not. An airline may have regulations about not allowing photography during take off or landing (use of electronic equipment etc) and we obviously need to comply with these rules, and in addition the crew may point out that its illegal to photograph over certain countries, but as to actual prevention - I think not, way outside of their remit.

Andy


User currently offlineSIDsandSTARs From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2002, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7245 times:

"As for photography in the USA, what exactly do you mean by a "prohibited area"? Are these the same as the prohibited areas on the sectional charts (such as the White House?)"

I don't know Jhooper, I didn't write the ops manual. If you ever find out how a "prohibited area" is defined, let me know.


"Accordingly, I would be a wanted man in: Austria Belgium Italy"

Have you seen anyone from Interpol hanging about near your house recently Ikarus  Big grin

Joking aside, some countries are on the list maybe because they are worried about espionage, others it might merely be illegal unless you've purchased the correct government licence, aimed at Commercial Ariel photography work rather than airliners, but you might still fall under any permit that is required. Again, I didn't write the ops manual, I'm just guessing here.


Nice photos Omegous, I like taking the odd in-flight shot myself.  Smile


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"You just took a picture of Belgian farmland sir, Im afraid thats illegal, we will have to confiscate your camera and throw you in jail for a day"

No Greg, if the Airline intended the crew to take action of that sort, the ops manual would have specified it. It merely says "watchful for passengers with cameras and inform them that photography over these countries is prohibited by local law."


"Thing is, its not the cabin or flight deck crew's job to act as policeman in such matters, and therefore its largely irrelevent what's written in an airline ops manual about which countries its legal to photograph and which its not."

I agree Andy, but the point is the Airline has "covered itself", so if ever there is an incident (Athens springs to mind) the Airline will point to the ops manual and blame the crew for not informing the passengers, or the passengers for taking photos regardless, either way the Airline is covered.


Anyway guys, I think you'll generally find as long as your not disturbing the other passengers most crews will happily let you take as many photos as you wish. But if you do ever run into a crew who says it's not allowed, just be aware, they may just be correct!

Happy Shooting, Rgds Sid.  Smile


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 23, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7238 times:

And remember that taking pictures in flight that show a military installation is considered espionage in most if not all countries.
Depending on the airline and location, the crew might just contact the local police or secret service about you (though that would be more likely to happen in 3rd world countries).



I wish I were flying
User currently offlineScottysAir From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7214 times:

One more questions about El Al Israel was doesn't not allowed to take a pictures inside with the cabin shot and also, I've did seen with the photos for before with the first El Al's photos. So here it is:


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I wonder to know why did got a shot for El Al B747-200? Next time I need exactly want get me more photos of B777 inside of El Al and all of the aircraft with the proper permission by cabin crew. OK?


25 United_Fan : My mom was hassled by a USAirways f/a while taking a pic out the window of a 762 @ LGW in June. She was told that it wasn't allowed. It's only out th
26 Flpuck6 : It is reassuring to read that people have had positive experiences inside the plane. On some DL flight, I asked to take a shot of the cockpit and the
27 Turbolet : It's prohibited to take pictures over Malta? That's news to me. I didn't have any problems at all with taking pictures when flying MLA-FCO-MLA somethi
28 Post contains images Dazed767 : I'm pretty sure though (in the USA) there is no rule saying you can't take a photo. I think the only time they would stop you is a paranoid F/A thinki
29 Gocaps16 : I flew from Norfolk to Baltimore on Southwest Airlines couple weeks ago and I had my camera with me. When I got to my seat, I took my camera out and k
30 Davus : On a recent flight between Melbourne and Sydney, which was a VERY empty flight, I was taking my usual few rolls as i normally do. There was one FA who
31 Photopilot : Well, I guess I am one lucky guy. I was caught by the FA on a Cubana flight (over the USA) from Toronto to Havana. I explained that I was a photograph
32 ScottysAir : Justin (Dazed767), Why you want to moving into Australia for? I don't think so either!! You should to be stayed into Florida for the long time. OK? Ar
33 Dazed767 : I was just joking Scotty. But it would be nice to go there one day....
34 Bruce : Never had a problem here either. See all my inflight shots here plus on my pbase account. On that MD88 engine photo, I had to completely turn around i
35 Post contains images Stratofish : Hey, SIDsandSTARs, how did you take such sharp pictures from a moving object at 39,000ft? I´d greatly appreciate any advice in that mine never get so
36 Ah414211 : I take photos from the cabin on almost every flight I take and I've never had any problems! On one Northwest flight I had an off duty NW captain sitti
37 JBLUA320 : Did this incident take place aboard jetBlue???? That would surprise me a LOT. Anyway, on the 29th of December I flew back FLL-EWR on CO1400 (757-300)
38 USAFHummer : At my local airshow this past year at NAS/JRB Willow Grove, PA (NXX/KNXX), a FedEx 727-200 appeared and was open to walk through, however when I tried
39 Tu154m : I just went on DL ATL-SEA and the Capt announced that people with cameras may want to get them ready as Mt Adams, Rainier and St Helens were approachi
40 Dazed767 : Yeah Ben, it was. I fly next weekend on WN, and I'm sure I won't have any problems.
41 DeltAirlines : The few times I have taken photos on flights (I haven't flown much since 9.11, and I normally leave my camera at home), I have not been hassled by eit
42 JBLUA320 : jetBlue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHH!!! That bothers me- jetBlue is not normally like that at all, and 99.9% of crewmembers are
43 Post contains images Dazed767 : jetBlue is not normally like that at all, and 99.9% of crewmembers are friendly and efficient. I guess you cant win them all. 99.9% huh? Where did you
44 Post contains images Jhooper : I can't wait to be arrested for taking photos on an airplane! LOL!
45 JBLUA320 : No, they didnt pay me for that. Im not even an employee! Though they did give me a $200.00 voucher for being loyal... JBLU
46 ScottysAir : Dazed767, Are you just kidding about of you did ever used with Jetblue for all of time into the years, huh? I've do think someday will fly into Jetblu
47 Dinker225 : If it is illegal to take shots from airplanes over certain countries, how do they plan on stopping the satellite photos? If you ask me they should jus
48 Jhooper : I'm taking a guess here, but I'd guess they wouldn't stop satellite photos for two reasons: 1) They lack the capability to physically enforce such a l
49 Mark2102 : In July of 2002, the last time I was on an airplane, I flew CO EWR-MCO. I asked an FA if I could have a tour of the cockpit and she said yes. Then I a
50 Bruce : Uh, mark, are you saying that you had a cockpit tour DURING a flight? if so, then i have to say your "story" is way false. where were you on 9/11/01?
51 Mark2102 : No. I mean I went in the cockpit before the flight. We were in the back of the plane so as I was getting on, I asked if I can see the cockpit for 2 mi
52 Post contains images MUC-PIX : Never had any problems. Only pax not understanding this is a great and interesting hobby but that should be no problem-I´m not interested in model ra
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