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Is It Possible To Win An Appeal?  
User currently offlineAA 777 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 808 posts, RR: 13
Posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4219 times:
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Hello,

Is it actually possible to win an appeal? I cant and by reading some posts in the last few days other people cant either. I think that it is just a unless feature!

AA 777
Matt


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User currently offlineJeffM From United States of America, joined May 2005, 3266 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4208 times:

Matt,
I have appealed a few before. Some made it, some didn't.

Jeff


User currently offline2912n From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 2013 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4201 times:

It is possible, but figure the odds are against you. The screeners are following guidelines set by Johan as to what is and what is not acceptable. So when you get a rejection it is in line with his desires. Since you are appealing to Johan...well...

I think he has an open mind and does on occasion overrule the screeners, but not often. Best bet is just move on to the next photo.

Cheers.. Tony


User currently offlineJwenting From Netherlands, joined Apr 2001, 10213 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4193 times:

Yes, there is a chance. But you have to have a very good reason indeed.
I had one appeal work, and that was only because another screener on another picture I uploaded on the same day set a precedence that invalidated the rejection reason (it was rejected for esthetics, another shot with the exact same composition, lighting, sharpness, colour ballance, everything of a different aircraft of the same manufacturer in the same livery was accepted).



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User currently offlineZander From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 610 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4183 times:

It never works for me  Sad

User currently offlineCfalk From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4166 times:

Just looking at the appeals lists, it seems that somewhere between 5% and 10% of appeals are accepted.

That simply means that people are a little to quick to appeal rather than looking critically at their photos and deciding whether or not they could be better.

Charles


User currently offlineApuneger From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 3032 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4167 times:

Yup. If it wouldn't be possible, why bother and design the whole function in the first place? But indeed, it's very unlikely that you'll get your appealed pictures accepted.

According to the message that appears on top of the appeal page, it seems that a lot of photographers are using this function way too often. Some photographers probably appeal every single picture that gets rejected, just to have one very last opinion.

Anyway, since the appeal function was introduced, I've only used this function on two rejected shots. Needless to say that both of them got rejected by Johan as well Big grin But anyway, 2 pictures out of a couple of hundred is not too much I think.

Ivan



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User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3162 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4159 times:
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I got my appeals looked at yesterday (after five weeks), and while I accept the bosses decision, what I didn't like so much was that while I spent some time finding the right words why they should be reconsidered, you then just get a simple rejection "The photos are of low quality". Maybe the load of appeals is too high for individual feedback, but yet I would have appreciated it.

Konstantin



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User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4145 times:

Does Johan screen the normal queue?

User currently offlineWietse From Netherlands, joined Oct 2001, 3809 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

Donder10,

Nope.. thats up to the screeners... Johan only does the appeal que

Wietse



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User currently offlineKingwide From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 838 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4139 times:

And being a screener doesn't help either. I just lost one!


J



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User currently offlineAlaskaairlines From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2054 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4075 times:

AA 777, I used to appeal more photos than needed, but I find it a lot easier to correct (if correctable) than have the boss give it the hammer!

But out of 8 appeals I had 3 accepted, and I still don't agree with 4 of those. I'll show you the photos if you guys want to see them.....

-Dmitry


User currently offlineBruce From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5067 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4079 times:

Yes it is possible. I had 3 on appeal and 1 borderline which was left for Johan to decide - so that makes 4 for Johan, and i got two accepted (my two most recent uploads).


bruce



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User currently offlineJetTrader From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 586 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4037 times:


Yes. I'm 1 for 1 so far Big grin

I thought I had a good case and fortunately Johan agreed with me. I haven't appealed since, rather I've had a critical look at a rejected shot and either binned it or made adjustments where possible.

For what it's worth I'm also 1 for 1 on re-submissions since that appeal.

Cheers,
Dean



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User currently offlineSkymonster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 11 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4032 times:

Not appealed recently - haven't had to! Big grin However, out of the three appeals I have made in the past, I have won three! Big grin Don't you just LOVE the appeal system!!!! Big grin Big grin Big grin

Andy


User currently offlineMirrodie From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 7444 posts, RR: 62
Reply 15, posted (11 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 4010 times:
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 Big thumbs up Not appealed recently - haven't had to  Big thumbs up

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