Dazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5519 posts, RR: 49
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4340 times:
For a magazine, maybe $25 per photo. For an airline it just depends on what they would use it for (one time usage, or if they bought it out right and owned the copyright, which means they can use it for whatever they want for however long). I'm sure most airlines have their own professional photographer they hire.
PUnmuth@VIE From Austria, joined Aug 2000, 4164 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4259 times:
You mean an official newsletter of Innsbruck airport or a newsletter of the local enthusiasts club?
If its the first one i dont really think its interesting for them. Monarch isnt really a rare airline or new at Innsbruck or are they new this season? So in my personal opinion it wouldnt be interesting for them sorry but try it anyway. Mail them a preview in a lower resolution and note that it is only a preview and that you can provide it in high quality and you will see. You never know.
MUC_Spotter From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2002, 157 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4185 times:
Nice photo with the beautiful scenery that we know from INN, _but_ if you want to sell photos to someone [or even better: before taking photos that you might want to sell someone] you should first of all think what interest he might have in wanting this particular shot.
And, I am sorry to say, but I see no reason for the airport to buy this picture because it mainly shows the mountains and not a particular aircraft.
Besides that I think it will be quite difficult to sell them photos of their own airport, because if they want to have some, they will send out an employee to take the shots.
And furthermore I have to agree with Clickhappy
Staffan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4168 times:
I'm with Luis on this one, don't rush it.
For magazines your best bet is to contact them regarding their usage terms, usually they pay 20$-20£ for normal usage. The ones I contacted asked me to either send them slides, or previews on a cd and they'd ask for high res scans when they decided what to use. In my opinion, if you haven't got alot of intersting stuff, it's not worth spending hour after hour scanning, if in the end they only decide to use one or two shots..
For other commercial usages, it's quite difficult, since most of them have their own photographers, and the ones who don't try to beg photos for free of sites like this one.
Regarding quality, if the publisher only wants to use a small image, even stuff scanned on a flatbed will be good enough.
Photopilot From Canada, joined Jul 2002, 3142 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4001 times:
I see that you are young, so please look at this as a learning experience. I will try to offer you some constructive comments for future photography.
The photo simply doesn't have the quality required for commercial use. Please note that the aircraft is heading "downhill" towards the right. Rotate the image 2 degrees CCW and it will become square.
Next look at the levels. It is very flat in tonality, especially the mountain in the background. It needs some "snap" to really look good. I adjusted the levels and also locally adjusted the contrast on the mountain and it started to look much better.
Now stop thinking like a photographer and start thinking like a magazine or newspaper editor. Magazines do NOT buy photographs. What they buy is a good STORY told with a photograph. Magazines are not in the "eye candy" business but are a news source and images must have a news value to be of interest to them. The higher the news value, the more they will pay, even if the quality was not the best. Example. Look at some of the photos (taken from video feed) of the Columbia disaster. Not the greatest technical quality, but DYNAMITE news value. See what I mean. So I ask you this question.... "What makes the Monarch photo unique"? Is it a new airline to INN? Is there a financial story about the airline that needs to be illustrated? Ask yourself "WHY" they would want to both use the photo, and pay you for it. You need a "hook" or a reason to sell them the photo. For example. I have sold photos to magazines/newspapers for as low as $25 to a high of $5000.oo which is an incredible range. And the $25 photo was actually of better technical quality, but the 5G photo was stunning news value although technically inferior. It was also an exclusive and of a situation that could never be repeated by anybody else. At least highly unlikely as someone had to die for me to get the photo.
One other way to sell a photo is to also write a story (news or feature) to accompany the image. Sell the whole package. If you can't write, then find a local reporter who writes on aviation issues for the local paper. Find out what stories he is working on for future use and then try to take photos to illustrate his stories. Do this on speculation basis and maybe you will get lucky. It's not an easy road to take, but you have to start small and grow from there.
Hope some of this gives you some thoughts on moving forward. But I also must say that Luis made a very noted comment. You seem obsessed by money. Forget money. Become passionate about great images. Become obsessive about telling a super story with a photograph. The money will follow.
USAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 3968 times:
As an extremely amateur photographer (this question is directed to the more experienced)...do you guys send your stuff to the periodicals constantly without being asked, or do they sorta browse a.net and other sites for photos and come to you...I always thought it was the latter..
I have a possible follow-up question but I'd like to see a few replies before I post that as it may depend on what the answer is...
Chief A.net college football stadium self-pic guru
MUC_Spotter From Cayman Islands, joined Apr 2002, 157 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3947 times:
you can lay down lazy and wait for contacts to come (which has been the case for me with an A340 Turkish Airlines in Soccer World Cup c/s) but if you have something on hand and think 'hey, this is hot...' it is always veeeeery useful to contact the magazines directly. Chances to get a photo published do get higher by doing so [but think before sending them your stuff as they might get annoyed by getting to much rubbish].
At least this is what I as a 'no-one knows my name' is doing